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Chad_Abraxas t1_j5v6167 wrote

Reply to comment by meme_slave_ in AI art made me appreciate human art more by spyser

Hell no, I intend to keep up with the times I find myself in, whatever they may be. That's what artists do.

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TheAnonFeels t1_j5vbbf5 wrote

Then start making an AI that can create writings with passion and emotion, cause that's coming too.

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Chad_Abraxas t1_j5vd1hv wrote

Lma, ok, person who doesn't understand how art works.

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TheAnonFeels t1_j5vlqkd wrote

Okay, sure.. But i have yet to see a technical reason why AI cannot make books on the level of the average author... Outside of humans feeling things should be human.

I am all for your passion, I appreciate all unique art. I may not understand what all goes into it, but i understand AI.. So honestly I could be wrong, but why do you feel that way?

Is this the conclusion you have? "Art carries a message. AI cannot put messages into art that humans will understand/react to because AI is not human."

Seems like the GPT3.5 already can put messages in a story, it takes hand holding, but it can do it. The AI is trained on human material, saying it can't because its not human, doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Everything it knows, is human, that's why it can write in our languages.

Sorry if something doesn't make sense, can't even proof read this without a customer interrupting..

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Chad_Abraxas t1_j5vpgsd wrote

When I say "messages" (in art) I'm not talking about, for example, the simple Aesop-level fable messages--the obvious metaphors. I'm talking about emotional experiences--statements about what it means to be human.

How can a non-human entity know what it's like to be human?

I absolutely do think that AI can and will replace simple books written by simple authors whose only goal is to crank out an easily digestible story that will entertain a reader for a few hours. Yes, those kinds of writers will almost certainly be replaced by AI.

But that's a very different kind of book from, say, The Grapes of Wrath or The Good Earth or Beloved. I don't think a non-human mind, no matter how technically brilliant it may be, could ever convey the emotional weight of important literature, because it will never understand what it means to be human and to experience a human life.

ETA: The reverse side of that same coin is also true: a human author will never be able to write a novel about what it's like to be an AI that will feel true and resonant to an AI. A human can't understand what it's like to be an AI, either.

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TheAnonFeels t1_j5vq488 wrote

You see, I understand now. Your point makes sense! I still disagree, but i have no technical reason for it anymore. Only time will tell if we can share enough of our experiences with AI that it can fool us into it's own creations.

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Chad_Abraxas t1_j5vy5an wrote

Fair enough! I'm glad I explained it well enough that it makes sense to you.

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