Goodname2 t1_j46l0p1 wrote
AI politicians would be a big step forward given the state of affairs around the world.
It would be nice to see decisions put forth for the benefit of the majority including future generations and the planet.
No emotion or greed, just a bias towards preservation of life, peace and advancement of civilisation.
It would nice to know we're moving towards a star trek type future and not blade runner
Gubekochi t1_j46q8l2 wrote
But who could we trust in the current system to code and maintain that and not to go ingrain their own bias into it. Alignment is a big issue there.
Goodname2 t1_j46tpbt wrote
Honestly i dont know, some sort of monk software engineer who has taken a vow of coding for the sake of the betterment of humanity.
Maybe a test or harsh consequences written into their contracts.
Not sure really, how do you find people that just want things to be better all round, no greed or chance of being bought out by companies.
carbonbasedlifeform t1_j48d8pk wrote
What if it was open source and there was an effective process for contributing?
quettil t1_j4g9kyz wrote
Ever tried editing Wikipedia?
FatedMoody t1_j4ab7bs wrote
I think what might be more problematic is the kind of data that is feed to train the model. We might feed it real data but will be issuing results from a system that might have human bias built in and now bias is training the AI
Shiningc t1_j46uxog wrote
You fundamentally misunderstand how AI and even politics work.
Goodname2 t1_j46x6aw wrote
Probably right, so what would you propose as a way to integrate AI into politics?
Shiningc t1_j46yb2j wrote
I wouldn’t unless it’s an AGI.
Goodname2 t1_j485c04 wrote
That'd be a good place to start
leaky_wand t1_j470v8a wrote
Well, imagine if people have their own personal AIs who can do exhaustive research and make informed decisions on their behalf. Essentially those people would be letting their AIs vote for them, if not directly then just by informing them of what is maximally beneficial for them and influencing their decisions.
I would imagine that would improve government overall. Given a hundred years, it could even lead to abolishing representatives and just having a direct democracy for every issue.
Goodname2 t1_j4856be wrote
Yeah, I can see each person having it, each electorate, state and country having systems where they combine and make decisions based on the many factors involved from the individual through to city, state and country.
It's just the amount of variables to take into account is mind boggling.
ice1000 t1_j48yfuk wrote
>decisions put forth for the benefit of the majority
Beware the tyranny of the majority. You can't always follow the will of the most popular opinion/benefit.
Hypothetical: most of the US population lives near the coasts. Popular vote says that mail delivery would be better if it only served the coasts.
Edit: I agree with your general sentiment, but majority rule has its own issues.
Goodname2 t1_j49bfna wrote
True, it all has to be paired with logic.
trenobus t1_j49cmn3 wrote
"A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision
We'll be clean when their work is done
We'll be eternally free yes and eternally young"
-- From I.G.Y. by Donald Fagen
Goodname2 t1_j49uze3 wrote
Ii'll hae to give that a listen. THankyou!
bunnnythor t1_j4c5pkg wrote
What a beautiful world this will be.
Z3r0sama2017 t1_j483481 wrote
So like the Magi that ran Tokyo3 in NGE? I remember watching that and thinking how fucking cool would it be and just thinking how far off we were.
Goodname2 t1_j485jdi wrote
If you like your hard scifi books, check out the Commonwealth Saga by Peter F Hamilton, They have a planetary AI that occupies it's own planet.
quettil t1_j4g9ej7 wrote
> the benefit of the majority
So, we tell an AI to work for the benefit of the majority. The first thing it does is abolish minority rights. Who decides which group of 51% of people counts as the majority? Who defines 'benefit'? Who decides what counts as advanced?
Goodname2 t1_j4ibs41 wrote
Why would AI be able to abolish rights? Its purpose is present solutions based on the data it has available, which can then be voted on. AI being implemented into politcal policy making would be to offer arguments based purely on the data available.
As to who inputs the data and what is supplied, that is another problem.
ilaissezfaire t1_j46lvkj wrote
I love this idea.
solidwhetstone t1_j47kl77 wrote
That's precisely what we in /r/osd are trying to prevent. As soon as we lose the ability to decide for ourselves, it's endgame.
Goodname2 t1_j484isk wrote
Yeah i agree that I wouldn't want AI making the final decision, I would want AI to be able to show a possible solution with all it's positives and negatives and then have the public be able to vote on AIs choices versus an elected official's choice.
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