Submitted by Peugeot905 t3_10mvirk in Futurology
gurgelblaster t1_j67m7y4 wrote
Reply to comment by chin-ki-chaddi in Kenya’s Producing Its First Electric Buses — 1,000 Buses Over 3 Years by Peugeot905
This is why you build catenaries and overhead lines and have small or no batteries.
chin-ki-chaddi t1_j67p776 wrote
That's called a train/tram and I am a big proponent. Wherever feasible, we should have more trains.
Unmouldeddoor3 t1_j67r415 wrote
No, it’s called a trolleybus - fit it with a little battery for emergencies and you’ve got yourself the most flexible and efficient option out there.
ForgedByStars t1_j682n8n wrote
> most flexible
Well you still need the overhead lines in place. But fit it with medium-sized batteries, and you could probably get away with having overhead lines only on some sections of the route network.
Missingtale t1_j67r8gu wrote
It's a trolleybus, used to be quiet common until the late sixties but most systems then got removed. Some still survive, maybe hybrid solutions could make a comeback I don't know why they went out of use, probably lack of flexibility. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trolleybus_systems_in_the_United_Kingdom
Surur t1_j67t34l wrote
That's not going to work in most places in Africa as it would mean a lot of investment in infrastructure by the government and also high ongoing maintenance costs.
This solution uses the same roads as everyone else and is much easier to roll-out, and does not require a massive upfront investment to be useful.
gurgelblaster t1_j67t9iw wrote
Roads, famously, are not infrastructure and require no maintenance.
Surur t1_j67v8fe wrote
Imagine a road with a pothole vs a train track with eroded ballast lol.
Or a road with a pothole vs the copper being stolen from an overhead line lol.
One does seem bit more resilent than the other hahaha.
gurgelblaster t1_j682x7l wrote
I agree that building and maintaining infrastructure is harder in a country that has been (and is still being) continually looted by (primarily western) capital for the last century or so.
Suthek t1_j67u88k wrote
The issue with that is that that's out of the hand of the company. For that you need infrastructure, so the cities have to pitch in.
It might be a better system, but it's probably harder to convince municipalities.
gurgelblaster t1_j67v3mh wrote
Yes I agree that more economic planning would improve things.
Surur t1_j67vwiy wrote
Or, you know, you can be realistic when proposing solutions.
gurgelblaster t1_j67y6us wrote
Sure building buses with batteries that are not possible to procure is much more realistic than implementing a system which has been used globally for something like a century.
Surur t1_j67zb2t wrote
So we did not built 10 million EVs last year, right. That's fantasy as it's "impossible to procure" batteries.
What universe do you live in again?
gurgelblaster t1_j67zhfz wrote
I encourage you to read upthread for the context of my first post.
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