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bce69 t1_j4gg3f8 wrote

Reply to comment by Exact-Pause7977 in Will AI Lead To Lost Of Jobs by therealsam44

You are correct, sort of, but eventually ai and robotics will be able to maintain,. Develop, Certify and repair themselves without human involvement.

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Exact-Pause7977 t1_j4glt3f wrote

Only if our development process (those new jobs I talked about) creates AIs that do so, and the certifiers & regulators permit it (more new jobs)… . Further… Since corporations are built around making money, It is puzzling to me to think any corporation would deliberately develop an AI that would decimate its markets. No… the Deus Ex Machina that people imagine AI to be could only be dreamed up by the likes of an evil scientist of the likes of Heinze Doofenschmirtz. And he always had the good sense to include a “Self destruct button” in his creations.

We’ve already begin the process of thinking about how to manage AI in our culture and economy. That’s what’s produced works of art such as Asimov’s Robots novels, or the Terminator Movies… Shelly’s Frankenstein (the book is best!), and even Sir Terry Pratchett’s “Raising Money (where golems where a stand in for AI). I suspect we’ve got a few decades before AI begins to the change the culture. Plenty of time for the Developers and Certifiers to be guided by regulators to decide how to put AI to work… and plenty of time for people to create new products around AI that will drive a new revolution.

I think there is plenty of time given how many problems are already popping up in even the crudest of attempts at applying the primitive AI we have now. Self driving cars are so fallible that some states are debating banning them for the time being. Lawyers are laughing at suggestions that chatGPT has any chance of replacing them. Students are discovering that chatGPT is leading to them being charged with cheating and/or plagiarism. Even the new digital art AIs are being challenged with charges of intellectual property theft, given that they were trained on copyrighted images without permission. Just sorting out the legal and liability issues will slow AI down to a manageable pace.

AI is coming… and yet the question isnt “How can it be stopped?” Rather the question is “How will this change things…and what can be done with the opportunity.” These are the same questions that got asked when the automobile was created… and then later when the internet was introduced. The questions occur every time humans are confronted with change, because we dont like it… though we really do need it to survive. Who knows… perhaps applying AI to the problems that have plagued scientists for the past few decades will crack the problem of climate warming or cancer….

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InterestsVaryGreatly t1_j4h3kir wrote

The CEO that owns the AI that makes other AI will be making bank. That profit won't disappear for them, it's just more incentive to do so.

Development jobs already exist, those are some of the "new jobs" of the internet age, you aren't going to see a huge uptick in those jobs as AI rolls out, they already are being done. We already have jobs built around making AI development faster too.

AI is already changing the culture. The recommendation algorithms online are run by AI. Future planning focuses majorly on AI. AI runs stock market trading for many firms. There are AI being developed to identify diseases that are already as good or better than the best doctors (one of the areas where they won't replace, but doctors will have their role changed, with traits around human interactions becoming significantly more important than any diagnostic capabilities); this tech is even already being used in places they don't have enough doctors.

As for lawyers, ChatGPT won't replace them, it's not meant to, but there IS a Lawyer AI that was designed to, and it's already started; Lawyers thinking they are irreplaceable is their hubris, not a reflection of AI (people once said machines would never replace railroad track laying). Likewise the AI art can just be trained on free datasets, and those issues go away - they've seen the model already works, retraining it isn't a real challenge. Students SHOULD get charged for plagiarism for using ChatGPT, but it's not easy to catch it unless they suddenly change mid semester, and that doesn't take away from the myriad of opportunities it unlocks for non-students. Self driving cars are really not that fallible, particularly the frontrunner (when was the last time you heard an issue with Waymo?); In non-inclement weather they are already exceptional and loads better than humans. When an AI crashes you hear about it because it's a big deal, they don't happen that often. There are thousands of car accidents with humans behind the wheel every single day, we don't hear about them because they are common. And while there are fewer self driving cars, they aren't outnumbered by that magnitude.

The automobile is a great example of AI replacing instead of supplementing; not for the human drivers (still needed taxi drivers, still needed semi drivers) but for the horse, because the automobile completely automated the need for horses - and they did not get shifted to new roles, they got massively downsized, relegated to recreation rather than productivity.

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