strvgglecity t1_j5ytrzm wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in homeownership rate will be over 80% in the future because everyone will be able to own at least a small condo in low cost of living places due to remote work and indoor living. by Pitiful-Internal-196
Until jobs start disappearing by the millions. That's what's predicted for the next 10 years in technology.
Surur t1_j5yucij wrote
The same technology which replaces jobs will bring down the cost of living and enable us to live in places which are not viable now. Precision fermentation may even make huge tracks of farm land available for habitation.
strvgglecity t1_j5yvf9m wrote
Disagree! Prices for everything are likely to rise precipitously as climate change and global consolidation of resource ownership continues unabated. We have done nothing to slow or stem any of our biggest problems. Home ownership is dropping in my country. I simply don't believe technology will make wood cheaper to build with or eliminate the greed that stop our homebuilders from making smaller homes in America.
Surur t1_j5yx40a wrote
> Home ownership is dropping in my country.
Really?
> Typically, there is incremental movement for homeownership statistics over time. However, homeownership rates are subject to volatility around larger economic events. For example, after peaking at 69% in 2004, 2008’s Great Recession led to homeownership rates declining, falling to just 63.4% by 2016. As homeownership began to slowly recover, the rate peaked again at 67.9% in the second quarter of 2020 before falling to 65.5% at the end of 2021, most likely due to the pandemic. Homeownership rates may be subject to more volatility in the near future.
Q1 2020 65.3%
Q4 2021 65.5%
Q 3 2022 66%
Do the numbers being different from your perception change your mind at all? Or are your views not fact-based?
strvgglecity t1_j609gz9 wrote
Annual rates are irrelevant. Long term trends are more important. A smaller percentage of my fellow citizens own homes than they did 25 years ago, or 15 years ago. Home ownership here has morphed into a corporate business opportunity, a commodity that's repackaged and resold over and over to raise prices. I also don't think the 66% figure means much here, be a use homes are so expensive that virtually all of those "owned homes" are actually under mortgages and only technically belong to the resident - the actual owner is the bank, until the mortgage is paid off. Any recession that impacts mortgage payments for a few months, and the home is no longer owned by a resident (that happens here with great regularity every 10-15 years).
Surur t1_j60bno3 wrote
> Annual rates are irrelevant. Long term trends are more important.
And this is the long term trend.
https://dqydj.com/historical-homeownership-rate-united-states/
> that happens here with great regularity every 10-15 years
Then its just part of the process and not really a sign of a long-term trend, is it?
Are you willing to concede now, or are you going to continue making unfounded claims.
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