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irpugboss t1_j4rqp0k wrote

An overwhelming and very clear alien invasion which we very likely would get annihilated in because we're so slow to react and likely way behind in military capabilities to a completely space faring species on conquest.

We'd get neat little merch for a while though, like Earth United stickers and fun commercial slogans with happy music showing our unity and how we will drive back the invaders , for a time lol.

Other than that, global pandemic nope, can't see it, not real enough. Maybe if it was a horrifically visible illness like blood vomit that is transferrable through direct and clear cut contact almost instantly.

Meteor is too localized and anything left standing will just tend to itself then exploit the weakness of others. Other wise it would be too much and just wipe us out to make govs unify.

Global warming would be interesting with sea level rise, may see a haves vs have nots kind of global unification in alot of ways.

Soil spoil globally into famine, would probably cause more division than unification for sure.

AI? At this point our very out of touch leadership won't even see that subversive threat coming if it does lol.

Legit, only direct and clear violence can unite us, maybe and that's likely to protect our power structures moreso than the people. Likely will still have in-faction fighting anyways on tactics, sympathizers, who is in-charge, etc.

Fortunately if all the global governments collapse the aggro that we have as individuals would probably also be why we scrap and cling to living even if we're prone to in-fighting and short-term decision making.

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gnagorez OP t1_j4whlbh wrote

Interesting analysis. I think that when we imagine the end of the world or a catastrophic event, we only imagine one option and maybe the most possible is a combination of everything.

For example, in global warming, the sea level rise, and the soil spoiling globally into famine are two options that can happen simultaneously or one after another. And this problem could cause a health problem that could lead us to a new pandemic.

Maybe the only possible scenario where we can unite us is after all the problems, after a population reduction follow it of the disappearing of some government structures.

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irpugboss t1_j4x4omq wrote

I would like to imagine it would be possible then but even if so for how long?

I imagine our willingness to fight is biologically driven and cooperation as well but only up until a point until you're needs (even if trivial or imagined) are met.

I guess a non-doomer take for unification would be absolute end to scarcity and all basic needs are met then conflict transforms to something else. It becomes violence or the threat of violence to maintain unity as the clear way to keep ones abundance, so important to maintain the end of scarcity that the act of strengthening unity (and staving off scarcity problems) becomes a form of power/appeal.

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