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Sol_Hando t1_j8owo4r wrote

Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in New York City homeless problem by Accomplished-Lime806

In NYC, there’s affordable housing available to the homeless for as little as $100 a month. There are requirements though, such as not having an active drug addiction and being willing to work a government job if you’re physically able. The NYC homeless population is mostly people who don’t fall into this category, either drug addicts or the severely mentally ill.

Building a ton of pre-fab housing in middle of nowhere land is not the solution to homelessness, as proper maintenance and care would need to be applied for the housing and neighborhood as a whole to continue existing. People who end up homeless are usually those least able to maintain their own homes and function in an affordable housing community.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j8oyr8q wrote

Why would there be any requirements? If people want to do drugs, that is their business. Their (short) life, their choices. Same is true for work or rejection thereof.

A 20 store assembled concrete building full of small appartments will suffice. The most functional inhabitans can be employed part time for basic maintance operations.

It's weird that people accept homeless lying on the streets causing all sorts problems, yet are outraged at the mere thought of free housing and no work requirements. Why would you care? The homeless guy is not working anyway.

Housing is dirt cheap on a basic level. As is food and clothing. It does not take much in resources to house, feed and cloth human beings.

As AI approaches the "outrage" about bums not working will probably fade, for the majority will be out of a job too in short order.

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Sol_Hando t1_j8ozrdd wrote

I’ve volunteered for these exact affordable housing projects in NYC, and the requirements aren’t there out of any sense of people making their own choices.

Drug addicts endanger the apartment block as a whole, and are exceedingly more likely to cause serious damage to the housing. You shouldn’t only consider those who are currently homeless, but those people who are legitimately working to improve their situation or those who face too low wages.

The idea of a requirement-free homeless shelter has been tried many times. It almost always fails spectacularly, with the housing being destroyed ruining the lives of those who “behave”. If you had ANY experience with this you would know that.

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FLORI_DUH t1_j8p2ceo wrote

How naive can you be? It sounds like youve never met a homeless person in your life.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j8p46u5 wrote

The point is that I don't want to meet one ever. It shall not exist.

I don't care if people do drugs or overdose, don't work, do nothin all day. It is cheap to provide housing, food, clothing. Relative to productivity levels it costs next no nothing.

Let people live their lifes as long or short as they see fit.

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FLORI_DUH t1_j8p4jt3 wrote

You should try volunteering at a shelter or soup kitchen sometime. Even one day would probably be enough to learn that funding someone's drug addiction is actually quite cruel. It's not about what it costs us, it's about what it costs them.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j8p6jw3 wrote

Cost them? They die anyway on the streets. I would rather die under a roof, we give dogs and cats such comfort, but not our fellow men.

It's none of my business if somebody wishes to be high all day, at one point I would even make sure drugs of choice are clean and safe to use.

We already have reached the level of productivity to see all our basic needs met at low costs in terms of required manpower/working hours.

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FLORI_DUH t1_j8p76sl wrote

I'm glad you don't have any deadbeat drug addicts in your life. Keep on dreaming.

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