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[deleted] OP t1_j9sj8n5 wrote

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Deftek178 t1_j9soqq0 wrote

So... Completely anecdotal "argument" and not based on any kind of actual evidence. Many companies became much more profitable during the pandemic. I work at a bank for instance and 2020 + 2021 we're some of our best years in the last decade. Sorry but your comment reeks of middle management trying to justify their job.

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SLUer12 t1_j9suqro wrote

Dude, in 2020-2021 you had free money pumping into the system. Everyone with a pulse made money. Doesn't mean you were more productive, once the stimulus stopped and interest rate went up, many companies found their pants were down.

It's when the times are lean that WFH needs to prove itself, not when there was money raining down from the sky.

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zaglawloblaw t1_j9trjry wrote

Thank you!! Every time someone pulls this card I want to pull my hair out.

Oh you made record profits during the year everyone made record profits? Awesome. Oh people were trapped inside and had to use your product? Not correlation at all.

Wait, the US fed reserve and government put ten trillion dollars into the economy in a year. Nah that can’t be it, it’s because people worked in shorts.

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BoysenberryLanky6112 t1_j9uatrh wrote

The fact that this is downvoted so heavily shows how this sub is just turning into antiwork bullshit. I'm all for remote work and work for a company that is 100% remote. But with their savings of terminating the office lease they provide a budget for some shared coworking spaces for us to use, and I go in a few times a month. The last time I went in I had a conversation with someone from a completely other team and we hammered out a solution in an afternoon to a problem another team had been working on for weeks with no success. I'd have no reason to speak to this person other than they were next to me in the shared coworking space and the combination of their knowledge of the problem and my knowledge of some specialized data they didn't know existed caused us to be able to solve a problem that will likely save the company 6-7 figures/year.

Like yes as an employee I value being able to take breaks in my apartment rather than office, I value being able to do laundry while working, I value no commute time, etc. But everyone here seems to be under the impression that there is absolutely 0 value to being in the same office with other people you work with, and that's just plain false. I think going forward remote work will continue to be a thing, but I also think there will start to be a pay gap between remote and in-office work and the natural market will allow workers to decide which they want, do they want to be 100% remote? Or do they want to be hybrid or full-time in office and make more since they don't have to be competing with as many people from as many geographies and probably can at least be marginally more productive than the average 100% wfh employee?

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DnDamo t1_j9svc3a wrote

Completely my experience, also in engineering

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edge_case___________ t1_j9tp1tt wrote

My company RTO for 3 days per week a few weeks ago.

Want to know the one meaningful hallway conversation I had with jrs?

Telling them that once they vest, the best way to get a raise is to switch companies.

We are more productive from home.

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