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jamesj OP t1_ja4gv2m wrote

AlphaZero used no human games and defeats the world's best Go players. It is not true that all AI systems need labeled data to learn, and even with labeled data it isn't true that they can't learn to outperform humans on the dataset.

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guyonahorse t1_ja4mpku wrote

Of course AlphaZero had labeled data. We already know how to detect when the game is won, we just don't know what moves are good to get there. The AI just did moves and the right answer = winning the game. The beauty was it could play against itself vs human players.

For AGI we don't know how to detect "winning the game".

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