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Janus_The_Great t1_ja9iji5 wrote

also we've altrady have had multiple phases of the industrial revolution:

manufacturisation, factorization, electronification, digitalisation, automatisation...

We are still in a mix of digitalisation and automatisation, depending on what place we are talking about, but artificialisation is definetly somewhere in the mix soon.

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MrZwink t1_jaa9sep wrote

You could argue that AI is actually part of automation because it is "automated statistics"

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Janus_The_Great t1_jaadvj4 wrote

you could also argue that industry (coming from Latin "diligence, activity, zeal") and automation (Greek "self-acting") are synonyms, but that leads to more chaos and thus only complicates things, so best to use them with their primary association they are today defined by.

AI can (and will) lead to further automation of production lines, granted, but so did digitalisation, and they all lead to more industrialisation.

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MrZwink t1_jaagay1 wrote

I like to think they're different in the sense that automation is the brain and mechanisation is the muscle. They do compliment eachother. And they are both forms of "industrialisation"

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ttkciar t1_ja9klc0 wrote

If AGI is ever developed, then yeah, there would be big changes afoot.

Large language models interpolating within their training data is not AGI, though, no matter how much the sensationalist media wants us to think otherwise.

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leviteakettle t1_jaa4o0t wrote

What is AGI and how is it different?

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ttkciar t1_jaae8nc wrote

Artificial General Intelligence, or AI which thinks about the world in a general way and solves problems with a cognitive process analogous to our own.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence

Large language models like ChatGPT are "narrow AI". They are statistics engines operating upon word sequences, and are not capable of understanding the world nor have anything remotely resembling cognitive processes.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_model

Cognitive scientists currently lack a sufficiently complete theory of intelligence for us to design AGI. Work is ongoing, but there's no way to predict when or if the relevant gaps in cognitive theory will be filled.

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ttkciar t1_jab756x wrote

That's fair, and there are certainly many people who believe the same as you do.

My money is on the first AGI coming about from deliberate design based on cognitive theory, but we'll see what happens.

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Enzo-chan t1_jaa8wjw wrote

Only the future will tell, we can't guess what the implications AI will have within society.

Albeit I think AI will do a lot of amazing things for us, I can't predict how deeply it will connect within our society, will it begin another industrial revolution?

At this height everything is possible, a few months, Boston Dynamics demonstrated a robot that can unload boxes. Maybe within the next couple of decades all the heavy works will be done by machines, and only intellectual ones will be left.

We can't know.

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StarSlayerX t1_jaezcwb wrote

I work for a fortune 500 and I can tell you AI is hidden all around you performing cost cutting automation. We helped other corporations eliminate 50-90% of Accounting, Data Entry, Call Centers, and other repetitive manual labor tasks with 40% cost savings. Outsourcing was only a stopping gap in cost savings to be eliminated by AI and automation.

This decade there is a focus to start optimizing repetitive and mass cheap labor. Example: Why eliminate 10 engineers, when it is 1000% easier to eliminate 10,000 data entry specialist.

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strvgglecity t1_jaahwwv wrote

Did the industrial revolution make work "easier" or just more efficient/productive?

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