pete_68 t1_j9yxzvn wrote on February 25, 2023 at 4:25 PM

I think there will be a demand for it. You need to be able to write to a certain degree of detail. I disagree with u/StrawInANeedleStack in this regard because until AI can read you're mind, you're going to have to be able to think through the problem and be able to pull out all the relevant details. That's not something a lot of people have an innate ability to do.

Prompting is a skill that will require development and again, until they can read our minds, it's always going to be a skill.

That said, I think it will be mixed with your job. If you're an ad writer, you'll be an ad writer with prompt expertise, or a software developer with prompt expertise, etc...

And I'll offer an example: Try to describe the layout of a web page like Google News, in detail, so ChatGPT can reproduce the layout in HTML and CSS. It's a lot of freaking words with tremendous detail and describing it in a way that isn't confusing for the AI is incredibly difficult. Ask me how I know.

rational_american t1_j9z7j0i wrote on February 25, 2023 at 5:28 PM

How do you know?

ThumbsUp2323 t1_ja04spx wrote on February 25, 2023 at 9:10 PM

>It's a lot of freaking words with tremendous detail and describing it in a way that isn't confusing for the AI is incredibly difficult.

I think the point you're missing is that very soon there won't be any reason to describe the layout of a website in tremendous detail. The "prompt" would be "reproduce the layout of Google News in HTML and CSS"

pete_68 t1_ja054r8 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 9:13 PM

>I think the point you're missing is...

I provided an example. Now come up with a novel website with the complexity of Google News and do it in 30 words or less.

Who's missing the point?

Lord0fHats t1_ja0l5um wrote on February 25, 2023 at 11:08 PM

Prompting is a skill in the same sense that using a search engine is.

There was a time early in the dot com era where people were paid for being able to wrangle search engines. It's not much of a job anymore since its existence mostly owed itself to the machine being unintuitive and a lot of older people being tech unsavvy.

Why would you need to describe a web page layout in one go anyway? If there isn't a generative AI that can take overt successive steps one command at a time already, there will be eventually. You'd never need to sum up the entirety of the page in one go.

pete_68 t1_ja0lfmb wrote on February 25, 2023 at 11:10 PM

No. Prompting is a skill like WRITING is a skill. People who can't write good prompts get shitty result. People who know how to write good prompts get good results. Half the people I see posting on here "Chat GPT can't do this or can't do that," don't know how to write a decent prompt.

And again, someone show me how you're going to prompt ChatGPT to write HTML and CSS to build something novel, with the same complexity as Google News, without confusing ChatGPT and actually getting something resembling what you want. I challenge anyone here to post that prompt.

Because I've done it. I know how hard it is to find the language that isn't confusing to the AI. You have to be careful about using words like "it" to make sure that the AI knows which of the 50 things you've previously discussed is the thing you're referring to.

All the people downvoting me haven't done anything more than trivial prompts with ChatGPT. Anyone who's done anything of any real complexity knows how hard it can be.

Lord0fHats t1_ja0mfm6 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 11:17 PM

Good luck I guess.

Irony is, once this stuff evolves out of single input generation and starts including 'select' and 'crop' the ability to understand basic design principles is just going to surge back into importance while the ability to 'prompt' is going to go back to being not very special.

It's also, hilariously, probably going to end a lot of this debate, since the process of selectively generating multiple pieces into a whole is a very different world.