DudeMcGuyMan t1_j9tancr wrote on February 24, 2023 at 12:14 PM

Reply to comment by Bewaretheicespiders in The American climate migration has already begun | Jake Bittle by Gari_305

>But of course they had "climate disasters" long before we started burning coal.

....with much less intensity & frequency.

Florida was hit several times this year, and the severity is more than it has been

Bewaretheicespiders t1_j9tye87 wrote on February 24, 2023 at 3:23 PM

You still can't count all of them as if they were caused by climate change. Its like Covid, you dont count all deaths, you count excess deaths.

DudeMcGuyMan t1_j9u66qq wrote on February 24, 2023 at 4:14 PM

> Its like Covid, you dont count all deaths, you count excess deaths.

Alright, what amount of these are you trying to label as "climate disasters" and how many more are you trying to label as "weather disasters", if that's what you're trying to get at? Or are you just trying to dismiss the increase of these events due to climate change?

Bewaretheicespiders t1_j9ubwcp wrote on February 24, 2023 at 4:51 PM

No, I dont dismiss the increase. Its something difficult to measure though because they are on very long cycles and we just dont have records for that long. You also cannot only measure the number of, say, hurricanes. Because a strong hurricane in the Altantic pulls cold water from deeper and will reduce the chance of another atlantic hurricane afterwards. But a Gulf of Mexico hurricane will not have this effect because of warmer, shallower water. See how complicated this gets? You can't measure damage either because development increases. Im saying this is complicated and important and outlandish, misleading claims dont help the cause.

Im not a climate change denier, Im a data scientist that likes proper science.