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Jay727 t1_jckomwl wrote
She was shot by paramilitairs, not hanged.
She and the KPD played a major role in getting rid of the German monarchy, that killed millions in a senseless war. SPD or KPD, they should all be considered heroes and founders of the German Republic.
Vollnoppe t1_jcm84iy wrote
>SPD or KPD
i dont entirely disagree but remember, "wer hat uns verraten, Sozialdemokraten"
Admaril t1_jckr03e wrote
The german monarchy didn't cause the first world war. Also it's abolition is why they ended up with a braindead constitution. Destabilising the country, getting Article 48 anywhere near the constitution and creating a massive power vaccum on the political right was completely disasterous. She deserves nothing but derision.
Jay727 t1_jcksnwf wrote
The German Monarchy literally declared war on France an Russia and attacked neutral Belgium and Luxemburg ans went on to invade France. Nobody forced Germany into war and since Austria was the attacker against Serbia, Germany (like Italy) wasn't even bound to fight on Austria's side by their defense contract.
Germany was literally the state that forced half of Europe into war.
Wilhelm II is mass murderer. Getting rid of him and his monarchy justifies almost any action of anyone in this period of time. They slaugthered the right pig.
Admaril t1_jckx9og wrote
So by your own admission, they didn't start the war. Great.
> Wilhelm II is mass murderer. Getting rid of him and his monarchy justifies almost any action of anyone in this period of time. They slaugthered the right pig.
Proceeds to glorify the system that directly resulted in Nazi Germany. Because apparently replacing the Kaiser and reducing the role to a purely ceremonial one is worse than giving a president completely unchecked power.
AlarmingAffect0 t1_jclurqp wrote
> So by your own admission, they didn't start the war.
Depends on how you define 'start' and 'the War'. They didn't 'start' the Austrian invasion of Serbia but they gave them the diplomatic blank check that allowed this to happen. They then went on to pre-emptively attack France via Belgium, starting the full on World War as we know it. Perhaps you might say their diplomatic agreements gave them no choice, except there's been no shortage of chickening out on such assurances of allyship in the previous decades, averting war many times, and the reason the current alliances were set up in the way they are is that Wilhelm II, genius that he was, deluded himself into thinking he was great at personal diplomacy and that he was smarter than Bismarck, ruining every alliance he had by pissing everyone off being a rude weirdo, and generally being an incompetent and a laughingstock at every damn thing he did that wasn't playing dressup. Which, admittedly, he was great at.
I pity the fool because of his horrible childhood and the terrible upbringing that directly made him who he is, but that doesn't excuse his choices.
Monarchies are a bad idea, and monarchists are the saddest and most pitiful kind of simp.
Admaril t1_jcm0gqr wrote
>Because apparently replacing the Kaiser and reducing the role to a purely ceremonial one is worse than giving a president completely unchecked power.
You are comparing a hypothetical figurehead to a president that had a "Become a dictator" button on their desk. What are you doing?
AlarmingAffect0 t1_jcmt9d1 wrote
Are you replying to the wrong comment?
Slazon t1_jckyn9h wrote
Rosa said: "socialism or barbarism". The barbarians killed her and her people. Then, the barbarians went and stablished the Nazi Regime. The rest is history. Barbarian history.
So, she was right. The answer was (still is) socialism.
Admaril t1_jckza7p wrote
She was a barbarian.
Those who seek to seize power without the consent of the governed are nothing more than thugs. The Freikorps were entirely justified in putting her ambitions to rest.
Slazon t1_jcl26rh wrote
Are you a nazi dude? You are defending the Freikorps. They went to do their own coup in 1920 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapp_Putsch), and failed. And most of those Freikorps went to help in the rise of Hitler and the Nazis to power.
If the Rosa Spartacist had won, the Nazis would't had come to power.
Are you truly defending far-right fascists?
Just lol. Lmao even.
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Slazon t1_jcl5fwj wrote
Yep you are a Nazi.
Is easy, just follow your leader.
Ciao.
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setofskills t1_jcl9mt4 wrote
What else are Nazi’s known for?
Admaril t1_jcla4cg wrote
Oh look it's one of those people that can't understand sarcasm without /S
The whole point of that sentence is that it's the direct opposite of the truth.
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