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Jackamalio626 t1_iuo7ixq wrote

"those millions of people who would benefit from this should suffer because it doesn't benefit ME specifically."

-an asshole

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ltzerge t1_iup91uz wrote

"The environment? Eh, by the time the ice caps melt I'll be long dead. I don't give a fuck"

-My Uncle to me when I learned about global warming in school and asked him about it

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GoinMyWay t1_iuqhwyk wrote

Your uncle taught you a valuable lesson on the motivations and reality of almost everyone, don't squander that.

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BIGBIRD1176 t1_iupotix wrote

We need to pull apart the lie of the self-funded retirees, and the financially self reliant because these people think they are doing the right thing by not being a burden on the rest of us by depending on pensions but...

If companies you invest in are underpaying workers to increase the share given to shareholders, you are not self funded you are taking hard earned money from the working class

If the labour is exported overseas you are not self funded your share is paid by taking money that should be going to people doing what is often slave labour

If a company is destroying the planet and paying 30% dividends in a world where 10% is considered great, well you didn't earn 30% the earth is paying the other 20% with things other than money

Our strong dollar values depend on the economic dominance of other nations, that can't happen without excessive investment. Yet this is the source of all our problems, they are society based problems and therefore can only be solved as a society, this idea that I earn this because is bullshit, we are a team, every single one of us. Just because someone is unemployed today, it doesn't mean they are worthless, they may work 40 years over their lifetime. You can't focus on what someone is doing today without considering their lifetime contribution

And while we're replacing the existing system we should stop dominating our friends and allies, and we should want every nation to become our friends and allies

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SpaceHawk98W t1_iuqxgrh wrote

And then they're countries with dictators plotting to rule the world in their own order

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Chromattix t1_iuq10ic wrote

"I had a shit run growing up so why should these people get any better"

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Jackamalio626 t1_iuq2o5w wrote

Oh they didnt have a shit run. They lucked out; their WWII vet post-GD parents worked extra hard to make sure they never ever wanted for anything. The boomers lucked out being born in the most prosperous and easygoing era in our country's history, but still love to pretend they worked against great adversity.

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