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Cash907 t1_j712dyp wrote

Bullshit. I took art classes in high school and college, and rando MF’ers would drop in and make my stuff look like dogshit by comparison. Not sure why this cartoonist feels the need to bash natural talent but it is absolutely a thing and should be appreciated.

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Aid01 t1_j718iq3 wrote

How do you know how much those rando mf'ers practiced in their own time though? Plus not all practice is equal. If you don't challenge yourself in your practice and analyze what your weaknesses are (and subsequently build exercises around them) then you're likely to flatline or slow down your progression.

Like I've never took art academically beyond early year schoolin where it was compulsary and peeps have said I was naturally talented when truth is I've just spent an insane amount of time doing that stuff when I was free.

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jl_theprofessor t1_j73q61o wrote

No matter how much you practiced, you would never be as good a swimmer as Michael Phelps or as good a basketball player as Michael Jordan. You would never be as quick a thinker as Stephen Hawking. There are fundamental biological differences that orient people toward being naturally better at some things than others that if given equal practice, the person with the natural gifts will excel more in. That isn't a bad thing, it is the crux of humanity to have different people of different talents that should motivate people to rely and build together.

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chocobobleh t1_j7137kn wrote

Came here to say this, there is definitely a huge element of raw talent to be an artist, I did 4 years of art in high school, I still have the drawing skills of a brick

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TheRockobis t1_j71c2di wrote

Bullshit on your take.

I know very well those random mfers who draw INSANELY better than I do and we are in the same class AND they're younger than me.

And you know why? They have drawn for WAYYYYY longer than I have. It's that simple. Of course they also researched how to draw better and learn from their mistakes, but the core thing is that they drew MORE than I did.

Not a single person that draws INCREDIBLE hasn't gone through a shitton of time drawing things they though were horrible, and maybe even to this day they still think their drawings skills are subpar, but that's what makes them hungry for more.

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jl_theprofessor t1_j73re4u wrote

Sure everyone has to practice, but not all people have the potential to improve equally.

>In a study published in PLoS ONE earlier this year, researchers from the University of Helsinki assessed people's musical creativity based on their ability to judge pitch and time as well as skills such as composing, improvisation and arranging. They found that the presence of one particular cluster of genes correlated with musical creativity. Crucially, this cluster belongs to a gene family known to be involved in the plasticity of the brain: its ability to reorganise itself by breaking and forming new connections between cells.
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>​ “Being artistic or creative is associated with the personality trait of being open to experiences,” Garrison says. “Some research suggests that there are neurobiological foundations for creative individuals. Based on all available information, it is very likely that the capacity for creativity is shaped by genetic influences –– it’s a complicated way of saying that creativity and artistic interests can almost certainly be inherited.”
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>"The people who are better at drawing really seem to have more developed structures in regions of the brain that control for fine motor performance and what we call procedural memory," she explained.

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FrozenFrac t1_j72tt3z wrote

This. Granted practice is extremely important and I promise you these people put in the time and effort, but natural talent is 100% real and surprisingly not acknowledge that much.

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