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soiramio3000 t1_j8hczi7 wrote

that's not always true.

if you are bad at what you are doing you can practice for years and still fail to improve.

I know from personal experience.

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EDIT:to clarify:I am mostly talking about competitive pokemon. I just can't improve on that since there aren't any STRAIGHTFORWARD videos and articles on the internet on team building.(except from that video grady cool made for sticky web teams, that was the one and only straightforward video I have ever watched).

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joomla00 t1_j8i4hb0 wrote

You can also practice incorrectly. People always underestimate, or don't want to perform, proper training

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soiramio3000 t1_j8ixnr9 wrote

I don't think that there is an "incorrect" way to practice competitive pokemon.

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joomla00 t1_j8kmckp wrote

I don't know anything about competitive Pokemon but based in what you said, you clearly have a problem with team building. Your practice at the moment may be developing and testing techniques to optimize for team building.

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soiramio3000 t1_j8mjq7q wrote

>Your practice at the moment may be developing and testing techniques to optimize for team building.

Hm?what? Are you talking about what I am currently doing or what you believe that I should be doing?

You may want to rephrase that part.

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ehho t1_j8hz7h9 wrote

Thats not true. You can improve at anything.

You need to put more time and attention to what you are doing according to your limitations. Thats where good teachers and coaches come into play.

Its rarely a race. Often its a marathon.

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soiramio3000 t1_j8ixjet wrote

I am playing competitve pokemon in pokemonshowdown for over a year and I suck and I cannot improve because there are not any STRAIGHTFORWARD videos or articles on the internet on how to built a team.

(except from EXACTLY ONE video that was only about building a sticky web team.).

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catfink1664 t1_j8jms2n wrote

Have you tried asking in r/pokemonshowdown ?

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soiramio3000 t1_j8jozxg wrote

Ask what exactly?

If you are talking about the "rate my team"posts they are useless, they are mostly ignored and when people respond to them they give advice that benefits the team very little.

If I ask for team building tips in general then they will jist tell me to watch a video or read an article.

Someone just yesterday told me in the smogon forums that "Teambuilding is a skill you build upon through experience and metagame knowledge. Its simply practice on what you want to build around, your offensive/defensive cores, pivots, hazards, etc."

This info is not helpful at all.

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catfink1664 t1_j8jpkun wrote

I agree, it isn’t. Ask them if they know of good videos and articles for improving your game

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soiramio3000 t1_j8jr8q1 wrote

There aren't any videos or articles that help you. I looked it up.

They are all giving you surface level information like what a wallbreak and a revenge killer is and what then they expect you to figure out everything on your own.

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ehho t1_j8jtldc wrote

I don't know anything about that game in particular so what i say may or may not apply.

They say that you need 10.000 hours of practice to master something. Anything. 10.000 hours is roughly 10 years.

I played league of legends and chess for that amount of time and still sucked. The reason i didn't improve is because when they say practice, they mean hard work, which is different than just playing around.

When i wanted to improve i spent more time analying my games, finding mistakes teying to figure out to fix them for the next time. Only when i had no solution i googled wuat othera did in that specific example. Another thing i did was look for chess and LoL guides, video explanations, spent 30-60minus practicing specific skills i lacked. I more about games itself, read ever patch of LoL, general important things about stages of the game, general strategies,... Lastly, i found a communities, played with them, exchanged advice and references, asked for tips,...

I did slowly but consistently get better, however, peronally, it took out all the fun out of the game and i don't have ambitions of becoming a pro player. So i stopped practicing and just continued playing for fun.amd with that, my progress also stopped.

I believe that all pros spent a lot of time practicing hard, and if you want to stay competitive you need to not only beat them in practice, but also find an edge anywhere you can.

I don't know if this reply is useful to you but i wish you find a way to break the plateau and continue growing as a player.

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RoosterBrewster t1_j8leioh wrote

Yep, it's all about deliberate practice. I hear some people at the gym say they'll never be able to look like some top bodybuilders. So they just half-ass their workout and never improve. They may not have won the genetic lottery plus steroids, but they discount the tremendous effort put in to get there.

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paulstelian97 t1_j8isgvf wrote

You won't be the best but if you properly practice anything, even out of your league, you won't be terrible either.

It's a difference between whether others outclass you or you outclass others. If you put in the work, you can do anything at some level.

Sure, you want to find out what you can do best and work to get to said best. But not everyone is lucky enough, some just need to take what they can do and optimize that.

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soiramio3000 t1_j8iyfv3 wrote

I edited the comment so it will be more clear that I was talking about competitive pokemon when I was talking about experience.

improving on this game is impossible,at least for me.

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paulstelian97 t1_j8iynp7 wrote

Sometimes you need friends to compensate for lack of available material.

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soiramio3000 t1_j8jam5g wrote

material?

what?

what are you talking about?

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paulstelian97 t1_j8jc40t wrote

Stuff like written knowledge, videos etc can be collectively called material.

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soiramio3000 t1_j8jdrdq wrote

ooh that's what you meant by matterial.

anyway as about the friend's part I don't have any anymore,and I doubt if my past friends have even heard of pokemonshowdown.

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DaveInDigital t1_j8l36id wrote

> EDIT:to clarify:I am mostly talking about competitive pokemon.

lmao i was not ready

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yanbag609 t1_j8hxw80 wrote

I believe that's called insanity

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soiramio3000 t1_j8hygd8 wrote

it is not called insanity.

it is not my fault that there are almost zero STRAIGHTFORWARD videos and articles on the internet on how to make good teams in competitive pokemon.

I have only watched exactly one video that was actually straightforward.

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TDA792 t1_j8i5ljb wrote

Oh god, I've been there. Trust me friend, its not worth the effort.

I played a lot of Pokémon Showdown (the online, unofficial browser-based competitive battling scene) back around gen6. It gave me an understanding of IVs and EVs, as well as the kind of movesets and types that are good for walls/stalling/trolling/tanking/etc etc.

But it was impossible - even though I played probably many thousands of games, my ranking never really increased. I got much better at predicting attack patterns, for example I could recognise that someone was going to bring out a mon and use a particular move, so I'd switch to a different Pokémon that would resist it. But if I wanted to climb, I had to restrict myself to using only a couple of different Pokémon, essentially abandoning using my favourites which I had been using up til then. I didn't want to do that, as it felt against the spirit of the game. So my rating remained stagnant.

I sort of fell off after gen7 and 8 were released, and have since gotten into Chess. Much more straightforward, everyone has the same pieces and it truly is about skill rather than team composition etc.. ...my rating has improved by several hundred points after about 6 months of consistent play.

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yanbag609 t1_j8i0irj wrote

loI i was quoting Albert Einstein.. sorry you suck at pokemon 🫤

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