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Black_Label_36 t1_iy5sd8v wrote

Yeah, good luck trying to migrate all your friends and family to a new one.

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tafor83 t1_iy5tzs6 wrote

One day, the tides will turn, and people will take open-source/decentralization to heart.

There is a fundamental aspect of privacy in tech that people ignore or are completely ignorant of: a third party is the security risk.

I've been emailing with a colleague for nearly two decades using private key encryption.

He's got my public key, I've got his.

That's it. That's all that's needed. It removes the third party risk completely. We can send each other messages and post them publicly on billboards for all I care - without my key, you can't read it. Without his key, you can't read his.

I hope, though I doubt it will ever happen, that people learn that privacy is a you thing. It requires you to do the work. Not someone else. If you are relying on a third party to secure your own communication - you are at risk.

The simplest thing ever is a standardized, open-source comms hub that people can spin up for $5/mo. Just a network to route encrypted packages. That's it. It doesn't require anything beyond that.

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Another-random-acct t1_iy5vmba wrote

Just use signal. I’ve had all my friends and family on there for nearly a decade. Somehow even convinced my mom and dad.

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velifer t1_iy5vso2 wrote

Signal had SMS integration with Android, and a desktop app that was tiny and mostly functional. It was the only one I could get anyone to switch to, and now they've pulled SMS support so we're all leaving.

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velifer t1_iy5vxxu wrote

https://xkcd.com/538/

Nobody gives a shit what you're writing to each other.

Nobody gives a shit what you write.

HEY NSA! I DO ALL THE CRIMES! JUST LIKE SOOOO MANY! 36 CRF 2.20? Fuck yeah bitches! Broke the fuck outta that one.

Nobody. Gives. A. Shit.

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SF_Engineer_Dude t1_iy69amf wrote

I use iMessage for friends and family; secure enough for low grade traffic.

For work Signal, and if there is some weirdo colleague or vendor who will not adopt it, they are just going to have to use email and wait.

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TheRealVillain666 t1_iy6jrd3 wrote

The likes of what app and Google and Microsoft etc are like the Borg.

They will assimilate anything that is a threat to them.

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DamnThatsLaser t1_iy7l50m wrote

https://latacora.micro.blog/2019/07/16/the-pgp-problem.html gives a very good view on the issues in my opinion.

>hope, though I doubt it will ever happen, that people learn that privacy is a you thing. It requires you to do the work. Not someone else. If you are relying on a third party to secure your own communication - you are at risk.

I completely disagree. Well-designed privacy does not need you to do work for it and pay attention because it just requires one slip (edit: for bad privacy to break). People make mistakes.

That just apart from our plugin at work that sometimes forgets to actually encrypt mails. Very rare but it happens.

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enadhof t1_iy7tqrm wrote

What's the best alternative to Messenger Kids? My kids are harrassing me to get it but I'm standing firm.

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springlord t1_iy91wo6 wrote

Anyone has a suggestion for a free / open source alternative to Slack?

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