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Diedrogen t1_j2a1jb0 wrote

Tipping, or rather, the need to tip, is the problem. Businesses need to be held to the standard of paying employees a living wage and not make customers pick up the tab.

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GetBent4Real t1_j2a8y78 wrote

Correct. I’m paying for delivery fees, and those fees should be sized to pay the drivers the lions share and a liveable wage. Fuck the middle man blood suckers.

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2c9bz5 wrote

I won't use services that charge absurd fees. I'd rather go without than go broke.

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Anerky t1_j2c36v8 wrote

It’s impossible to beat the wage tipped workers wake off of tips tbh otherwise a shitty serving/bartending/delivery job would start at $25/hr and most would honestly probably be at $40-50hr, margins in the foodservice business are relatively low compared to many other industries so the customer gets the short end of the stick

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halpmeplz94 t1_j2abxyu wrote

But, you're only hurting the delivery drivers here.

You're giving the middle men bloodsuckers their cut, telling the peons to go fuck themselves, while complaining about the peons not giving quality service. Maybe stop using these services altogether if the system is that much of an issue for you?

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PearsAndGrapes t1_j2bf7mk wrote

The disgruntled employee should bring their grievances to... Their employer then.

Enough disgruntled employees is how change will happen. How would less delivery demand change tip based system?

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Megzilllla t1_j2btaxv wrote

I don’t know if you’ve ever worked in a pizza shop but that’s how you get your hours cut and given to someone else.

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Bitter-Heat-8767 t1_j2chcho wrote

Or the drivers can stop driving if they have such a problem with the pay?

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Amiibohunter000 t1_j2ajk7v wrote

It’s not the businesses. It’s the society that makes the businesses rely on tipped wages. It’s not as easy as “oh the businesses should just stop”

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thisisrealgoodtea t1_j2ca1dp wrote

A popular restaurant in our area went to no tip, but had to slightly increase prices to compensate. It did not go well. They had to go back to tipping to not close and lost a lot of regular guests. I’m all for no tipping, but restaurant failure rate is already so high, it may have to be a state or nationwide movement for us to ever see that.

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minnehaha123 t1_j2bxa7t wrote

Think service is bad now? Just eliminate the tip culture.

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