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greenknight884 t1_j5we6w2 wrote

Maybe instead of thinking of it as giving up, think of it as changing tactics. Direct confrontation didn't work, so try something else.

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xPlus2Minus1 t1_j5wmckq wrote

What do you suggest? Personally I've given up trying. Sometimes my passion for a continuing species slips out sure but I've given up on the idea that my father will be a part of the future

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