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avd706 t1_jacqu31 wrote

Unless you give a shit about the environment

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[deleted] t1_jacunh9 wrote

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AKLmfreak t1_jacwpg1 wrote

lol, my coffee maker uses more than that in the morning. What a gimmick, indeed.

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zdfld t1_jacy2wu wrote

Except there are 100 million iphone users, which is what you should be considering, not just one iphone.

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WOAHdude0197 t1_jad2p1w wrote

This. Have to consider that apple just flipped this switch for every iPhone that got the update. One iPhone makes no difference but consider the millions of people with phones that never unflip this switch either because they wanna make a difference or because they had no idea about it.

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elcheapodeluxe t1_jacxcdw wrote

Take two hundred million iphones (less than they sold last year alone) and you're looking at 3.4 billion watt hours. Multiply that my maybe 900 full charge cycles per year and you're looking at a trillion watt hours just from the phones sold last year. Sooner or later it's going to add up to serious juice.

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ProXJay t1_jacx9jt wrote

I thought it was more to do with battery longevity?

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HalikusZion t1_jacysg6 wrote

Indeed it is, lipo batteries like to be charged at 1C which is the rate that it would take one hour to charge fully so a 5000mah battery charged at 500ma would take 1 hour. All a fast charge does is charge at a higher C rate which is not good for the batteries lifespan if done repeatedly.

That said the advice I have been given is that if you can do a full discharge and recharge cycle at 1C once or twice a month you should get much better lifespan.

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popejubal t1_jadc94b wrote

Is there a way to tell the phone to do a full battery discharge and recharge cycle at 1C?

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zdfld t1_jacyc5y wrote

There's a different feature for battery life, but this would set charging based on when the grid has clean energy

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Vareshar t1_jacxesv wrote

Charging you phone slower will not change anything for environment, it will not cause less electricity produced and put into grid.

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zdfld t1_jaczd21 wrote

That's just wrong. Obviously the electrical grid is built to support demand. Secondly, fast charging is more inefficient, that's just physics.

Also, Apple bills this as charging when the grid has more clean energy available.

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Vareshar t1_jacznzs wrote

But your charging your iPhone is not enough, even all owners, to reduce expected demand. Second, Apple just reduces it during "peak times" not matter what is actually used for production of electricity

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zdfld t1_jad1ex4 wrote

>Second, Apple just reduces it during "peak times" not matter what is actually used for production of electricity

The Apple support article says otherwise https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213323

>But your charging your iPhone is not enough, even all owners, to reduce expected demand.

I'm not sure why that is reason to not make a change? Most people most of the time charging at home don't need their phone topped up extremely quickly, and if you do, there's an easy way to override it.

Are we only allowed to make improvements if they're significant?

Sure I'd hate if Apple marketed it as a massive impact, just like when they marketed their "smaller boxes" after taking out chargers. But it is objectively an improvement, even if minor. Plus if Apple, Microsoft, Google and a host of others all incorporate energy saving features, it does have an impact.

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