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gravitas_shortage t1_irw94sv wrote

Who said anything about them only appearing in brains? I'm not a specialist and cannot talk about it, and, forgive me, neither are you. Penrose, and others, are, and seem to think there's enough there to warrant a debate and investigation. Maybe if you get familiar with their argument you can meaningfully agree or disagree, but it's not in my area of expertise, or interest.

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Cogwheel t1_irwa4ld wrote

I don't see how any of this refutes my original point. If there are unknown quantum effects taking place in the brain, they are part of the biochemistry, not separate from it.

And afaik, quantum mechanics is perfectly happy being represented as matrix operations (albeit with shitty space complexity)

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