[P] LatentWeb.ai - It's like the Internet is dreaming.

Submitted by LaravelWorkflow t3_108z4hm in MachineLearning

This is a little bit weirder of a project. The idea is to prompt AI to generate search results that you can then click on.

https://latentweb.ai/search.html?query=simulation+of+calculating+pi

and

https://latentweb.ai/search.html?query=what+is+a+juggalo

Every bit of text is AI generated.

Sometimes the results are what you would expect and the links actually exist. Other times the results are completely made up but seem real. Yet other times the results are just hilarious.

The goal is to keep this as open ended as possible and augment it with tools to make exploring easier and more fun. One of the first things I added after it was launched was the Google and Bing links because sometimes it would generate results that made you curious if it was real or not.

For example https://latentweb.ai/search.html?query=simulation+of+calculating+pi talks about throwing frozen hotdogs to calculate pi, which seems to be a popular topic for some reason.

Right now we aren't generating any of the actual pages due to cost but it 100% works and as soon as we find VC, it will be launched. That will also come with boring but productive tools like being able to save the websites, share them, use them as templates for a real website, even eventually get the AI to code backend functionality or wire it up to an external API like Reddit.

Until then, there is also a similar open source project that you can play with right now!

https://github.com/jbilcke/web4

Thanks for reading!

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JimmyTheCrossEyedDog t1_j3viyyk wrote

Neat idea, but

> as soon as we find VC

What do you see as the value proposition of made up search engine results? And what makes this different than every other use of LLMs?

I would caution against the idea of "finding VC" as a sure thing when everyone and their brother is throwing together a GPT-based startup right now, most of which will go nowhere.

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Essipova t1_j3vlje6 wrote

I conçur. Sounds like a fun idea but I can’t see any real value proposition from this.

A lot of low hanging fruits are being picked right now regarding ChatGPT and GPT in general. A lot of VCs are overwhelmed at this point by what’s on offer.

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3vmjar wrote

Right now yes it's just a fun idea but once we take it to the logical conclusion, it will become a lot more powerful. If you don't like any of the search results you can edit them and then generate the website you wish existed. You can embed fake images and audio from other AI models. It can already write code to make things interactive as well.

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Essipova t1_j3x132z wrote

Hmm… you’re making a lot of wishful thinking assumptions about how ChatGPT works, and what’s required to get to the stage you’re referring to.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and assert that your background is not in deep learning.

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3x5f0h wrote

What do you think is so hard about embedding AI generated images in a webpage or are you talking about something else?

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Essipova t1_j3znmos wrote

There’s a larger question you’re not asking about what the system must be capable of 😜

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3vm4xq wrote

The search results are free. Search for whatever you want. It's definitely mostly a novelty at this point but I'm sure someone can find a productive use for it too. The VC is needed for generating fake websites for these fake results.

As for what makes it different. It's a lot more open than most other ideas. There are AI search engines and AI website builders, etc. This is more like a portal into all of that and the ability to make it social as well. As AI improves so too will this service.

Midjourney makes fake pictures. Latent Web makes fake Internet.

It's up to the users to figure out how to make these tools productive. We will listen to their feedback and add the most useful features in order to achieve PMF.

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JimmyTheCrossEyedDog t1_j3w9jri wrote

> The VC is needed for generating fake websites for these fake results.

No, I get what you're looking for VC for - my point is, why would VC want to give you funding? What's the business model, what's the value?

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j40yq3j wrote

>No, I get what you're looking for VC for
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>What do you see as the value proposition of made up search engine results?

Doesn't seem like you can decide what you're talking about. Like I said, the VC isn't for made up search results. Now you want to change the subject. Weird.

Thanks for the quote though: https://twitter.com/LatentWeb/status/1613593337918783502

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happygilmore001 t1_j443i5m wrote

u/JimmyTheCrossEyedDog this is not ethical.

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JimmyTheCrossEyedDog t1_j44zozr wrote

Not sure if you're tagging to warn me about him using my reddit name in his tweet, but I'm not really bothered (although I do appreciate your tag just in case, as I hadn't seen the edit). Did not expect this kind of childish reaction to what I thought was my, your, and several others' constructive (albeit sometimes a bit blunt) criticism, though - yikes.

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3wdvx4 wrote

Are you a VC? If so, let's schedule a meeting and we can discuss it.

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happygilmore001 t1_j3yoolr wrote

Ouch. Hard pass. If you're advertising on reddit, you need the elevator pitch for reddit.

Do you own https://github.com/jbilcke/web4? If not this whole post should be deleted.

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[deleted] t1_j3weuc4 wrote

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3wkafr wrote

Your link doesn't work. It's just a broken placeholder image. Perhaps you were trying to insult me somehow but failed?

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ZestyData t1_j3vn2ss wrote

So you've put a nice CSS UI around Chat GPT's outputs, with no real substance added.

And you're legitimately hoping for VC funding for that..?

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3vncmu wrote

I think you misread. The search results are free. It's currently live and working. No, I don't need VC for the thing that is already running and has currently shipped. The VC is for the rest of the service that doesn't currently exist. I'm glad you like the CSS though!

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ZestyData t1_j3vpb25 wrote

No, it seems I didn't misread.

You're somehow expecting investments for displaying ChatGPT generated hallucinations.

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3vpuk8 wrote

https://imgur.com/a/l6ZWDlp

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ID4gotten t1_j3vltau wrote

So........... you are just generating multiple samples from the LLM with the same prompt?

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3vmb9w wrote

Yes, you are seeing the key first feature. This is essentially a prompt generator. You put in your keywords or phrase and then it extends that to different examples. But it presents it in a familiar format. The average person doesn't understand prompts or prompt generation yet but they do know how to search for stuff.

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ID4gotten t1_j3vn2a6 wrote

I think I see where you are going but this demo didn't really seem that useful. An LLM agent capable of dialogue doesn't need a prompt generator and you can just clarify or ask it for alternatives. So I think you need to work on your concept a bit more.

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happygilmore001 t1_j3yowkn wrote

>The average person doesn't understand prompts or prompt generation yet but they do know how to search for stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_engineering

The references provide plenty of resources and jumping off points. I'm sure it, or some similar resource will grow quite quickly.

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LaravelWorkflow OP t1_j3zbf9w wrote

Good luck with that.

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happygilmore001 t1_j43qxls wrote

I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to prevent you from spending a good amount of your life, where you will burn many potential opportunity costs on a patently dumb idea that is not profitable.

As far as the prompt generation "Good luck with that", you are of course aware of the wide propagation of stable diffusion image generation prompt guides, right? right?

e.g., https://www.howtogeek.com/833169/how-to-write-an-awesome-stable-diffusion-prompt/

as an aside, your tone and tenor on this thread shows your egotistical fragility, lack of ability to take constructive criticism in stride, and outright hostility towards people who are trying to help you. these are not traits that any VC would want to see. They will google your domain and product name and find this.

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