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gunshoes t1_j5bc1gg wrote

It's basically masters/PhD. A lot of ML involves research work and those degrees are strong filtering mechanisms for selecting that skill. You caaaan do ML adjacent work but it's a lot of the grunt tasks and you'll grow frustrated in about a year.

Source: PhD student. Collaborate in NLP/CompLing lab. The recurring refrain mong the masters students in that lab is they wanted to kill themselves at Conversational AI jobs.

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Tgs91 t1_j5bemlb wrote

Piggybacking on this. There are a lot of data science jobs that hire out of undergrad. A lot of the work is actually more data analysis and simple business analytics, but you can get started with a broad data science role, learn on the job, and specialize in ML

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gunshoes t1_j5bg8j0 wrote

Yeah, I may have come off a bit too negative because of second hand responses. You'll still have good opportunities to acquire experience and build a starting resume. The glass ceiling just comes down hard for some people if interested in mainline ML.

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damc4 t1_j5boanh wrote

>A lot of ML involves research work and those degrees are strong filtering mechanisms for selecting that skill.

Why is that filtering mechanism for that skill?

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gunshoes t1_j5bqnut wrote

Because thesis and dissertation work require some level of independent research to simply receive the degrees.

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damc4 t1_j5e9bog wrote

Ok, so that proves that someone has the skill. But when someone doesn't have master/phd, that doesn't prove that someone doesn't have that skill. In other words, if someone has no master/phd degree, but has published a research paper, then they have also proved to have that skill, so it should be possible for someone with bachelor / no bachelor to get a job in ML. Is that correct?

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gunshoes t1_j5ey2s1 wrote

No, many hiring managers will use arbitrary criteria to reduce the number of applicants they need to evaluate for a job. Degree requirements are one of those. While yes, there probably are a few people who are in ML jobs without meeting degree requirements, in general, you're going to struggle without them.

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