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new_name_who_dis_ t1_j7hh479 wrote

Reply to comment by st8ic in [N] Google: An Important Next Step On Our AI Journey by EducationalCicada

Well obviously. Search is a tool for information retrieval (mostly). If you have an oracle, it's much more convenient than digging through the source material and doing the research yourself, even when it is presented to you in most relevant first order, which is the most convenient order and what made google successful in the first place.

But yes, anyone reading please don't use ChatGPT instead of google search unless you don't care about the responses being made up.

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Zyansheep t1_j7hjddh wrote

Google search responses may be made up as well, its just a matter of there being more than one source to go through which makes it easier to spot potential discrepancies in any one source ;)

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new_name_who_dis_ t1_j7hpz3q wrote

Well if you see variety in the top results in google that might give you pause. But you're not getting that from ChatGPT

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JackandFred t1_j7hkrwq wrote

I like to tell people Gpt is more like writing an essay for English class or the sat than a research paper for a history class. It cares about grammatical correctness, readability is a better way to put that, that’s how you’re graded in English. It’s not graded on accuracy or truth. For the sat they used to say you can make up quotes for the essay section because they’re grading the writing, not the content. (I realize that’s dated, I don’t think they do an essay anymore)

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worriedshuffle t1_j7jvjlu wrote

For the GRE our teacher said one of the easiest ways to get a high score was to have a strong ideology. Just be a Nazi, he said.

I did not end up using that advice but maybe if I did I would’ve done even better.

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impermissibility t1_j7jywnd wrote

Uh, I'm sorry the English classes wherever you went to school sucked!

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red75prime t1_j7k7hh0 wrote

I've run it thru GPT for your reading pleasure: "I like to tell people that GPT-3 is more like writing an essay for English class (or the SAT) than a research paper for a history class. It cares about grammatical correctness -- in other words, readability -- rather than accuracy or truth. For the SAT, they used to say "you can make up quotes", because they're grading your writing, not your content."

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ginger_beer_m t1_j7ignoi wrote

> But yes, anyone reading please don't use ChatGPT instead of google search unless you don't care about the responses being made up.

Most people honestly don't care. They just want to get an answer quick, whether it's made up or not. This is true whether in real life or online.

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artsybashev t1_j7k04qr wrote

If Xi Jing Ping, Putin and Trump have taught you anything, being correct is absolutely useless. Just having some sort of a plan, coming up with a good story and some fact sounding arguments is a lot more valuable that what the average person thinks. Nothing more is required to be one of the the most influential person alive.

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ddavidovic t1_j7jwwc1 wrote

I think there's a lot more work to be done on that front. I tried to use ChatGPT and perplexity.ai instead of Google Search. It works for common knowledge, but once you get into more complex and niche queries it just falls apart. They're both very happy to lie to you and make up stuff, which is a huge time waste when you're trying to get work done.

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harharveryfunny t1_j7kjohr wrote

I tried perplexity.ai for first time yesterday, and was impressed by it. While it uses GPT 3.5 it's not exactly comparable to ChatGPT since it's really an integration of Bing search with GPT 3.5, as you can tell by asking it about current events (and also by asking it about itself!). I'm not sure exactly how they've done the integration, but the gist of it seems to be more that GPT/chat is being used as an interface to search, rather than ChatGPT where the content itself is being generated by GPT.

Microsoft seem to be following a similar approach per the Bing/Chat verson that popped up and disappeared a couple of days ago. It was able to cite sources, which isn't possible for GPT-generated content which has no source as such.

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crazymonezyy t1_j7ojv39 wrote

> But yes, anyone reading please don't use ChatGPT instead of google search unless you don't care about the responses being made up.

The general public is not reading this sub, and ChatGPT is being sold to them by marketing and sales hacks without this disclaimer. We're way past the point of PSAs.

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