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derek_ml t1_j95cgy8 wrote

I empathize, but I'd be curious what you think about this line of thought: http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

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I_like_sources OP t1_j95d7e4 wrote

Both are not well related. You seem to argue that you should let AI do it's thing, what it's good at, without interfering, yet keep in mind that results are for humans, not for computers.

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milleniumsentry t1_j95v74v wrote

I disagree. They are completely related, and directly to the black box problem.

I wish I found this article a month ago, because it sums up a lot of the 'ai's are unknowable' nonsense.

Being a blackbox, is not an inherent quality of an AI. It's an inherent quality of a badly designed AI. Eventually, we will have methods that allow us to query why a particular result was given.

They are unknowable, because we have not designed them to be. The tech is in it's infancy. Give it time.

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limpbizkit4prez t1_j9644lp wrote

What is your deal? Why are you being such a dick to everyone? It seems like you just want to yell at people, not have a discussion.

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photosandphotons t1_j96ckml wrote

They just want to complain about free products not providing the level of support they expect while probably not contributing much, if anything, themselves.

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derek_ml t1_j960t8q wrote

> You seem to argue that you should let AI do it's thing, what it's good at, without interfering

Not necessarily, it's just that we have seen good results by letting compute dominate over interference. If other approaches worked better then we would be doing that.

Maybe in a parallel universe they valued creative approaches over quick results and human interference was valued more, and eventually got far better results but not in this one.

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