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Yourbubblestink t1_jaom0i3 wrote

Reply to comment by Shadow3114 in Seeking psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy by [deleted]

Fair enough, to each his own.

One note tho - Implying that it is medicine without evidence is worse than calling it a club drug. It’s been a club drug a whole hell of a lot longer than it’s been an antidepressant (if it turns out to be)

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[deleted] OP t1_jaq2eu1 wrote

You're misinformed that psilocybin originated as a "club drug."

It was actually patented for use in psychotherapy when it was isolated by the Swiss chemist Albert Hofmann in 1959. Hofmann's employer Sandoz marketed and sold pure psilocybin to physicians and clinicians worldwide for use in treating depressed patients.

Peer-reviewed studies have thus far found it to be well tolerated in patients with treatment-resistant depression (few adverse effects), and the LD50 is so high that it would be extremely difficult to overdose unintentionally-- actually impossible if using mushrooms and not lab-synthesized psilocybin. Feel free to read the available studies from whichever scholarly sources you prefer (I recommend NCBI, google scholar is also a useful tool).

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Yourbubblestink t1_jar908o wrote

It’s not legal yet, and there’s no one in the State licensed to deliver it. It’s currently in widespread use, however, in clubs, and at raves.

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[deleted] OP t1_jaryjd0 wrote

You’ve already proven you don’t know very much about this chemical and haven’t taken even a cursory amount of time to read about it before making statements, I’m not sure if I should trust your warnings.

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Yourbubblestink t1_jasqvle wrote

I’m very familiar with magic mushrooms

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Perfect_Wafer8265 t1_jasur1j wrote

You're clearly not familiar with the massive amount of research supporting their use in a variety of mental health conditions. It's pretty much the consensus in mainstream psychiatry nowadays that psychedelics are the 3rd wave of psych meds.

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Yourbubblestink t1_jasux19 wrote

Yeah, I get that my whole point is just the government isn’t allowing them to be used that way yet

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[deleted] OP t1_jatyb9g wrote

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Yourbubblestink t1_jau0eqx wrote

No lol. I’m still back at my original point which is that has not yet been recognized by the government as a non experiment intervention. Until that occurs there are not options for getting the treatment yet - there are no prescribers out there able to use it. It’s still not viewed as medicine. I know it works and it will be a great tool for some in The future

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