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MrLeeman123 t1_je11nee wrote

Reading the article it sounds like this is mainly targeted at our neighbors to the south than us. It’s only going to affect a small portion of southern Maine fishermen and really just aligns our neighbors with current regulations in Maine. I have no doubt my cousins will still rant and rave about how this is going to destroy their livelihoods but compared to the whale fiasco this seems like a nothing-burger to me.

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mydogcecil t1_je13mnh wrote

Some Maine lobsterpeople....

"This would change the current standard by a fraction of an inch in only certain fishing zones".

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King_O_Walpole t1_je17qvg wrote

All they need to do is make the Maine rules and regulations national. Prevent those NH and Massholes from landing v-notch and oversized lobsters that immensely contribute to the lobster population.

Ban the sale of drag kept lobsters from ground fishing!

Closing the loopholes in other states needs to happen

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Slice-O-Pie t1_je1tn73 wrote

> a fraction of an inch in only certain fishing zones.

It's the end of the world as we know it.

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AdmiralWackbar t1_je1y574 wrote

The way people generalize lobsterman on this sub is sad

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shopgirl56 t1_je2j1t9 wrote

Replying to Swimming-Surprise-50 (#2,428,504)

How many stimulus/bailout checks have Lobster captains received in the last 20 years? No social security or taxes when you 1099 your stern people..the fishermans fund literally has millions of taxpayer dollars in it - bro - you all ARE the breadline bernie...

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swellmasterswell t1_je2ju3l wrote

Doesn’t the state of Maine have other problems they should focus on other than changing the size limits for lobster by a fraction of an inch?

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SeawolfGaming t1_je2lptk wrote

Replying to AdmiralWackbar (#2,427,452)

I know, the way people generalize them is fucked. I live in a lobstering town and most of the people here are lobstermen. The way that people on this Subreddit hate on lobstermen with false information is just fucked beyond belief. Like holy shit I don't think a single one of them has actually met a lobstermen, let alone understand how hard they work every single day.

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arms_room_rat t1_je2t1nf wrote

Replying to SeawolfGaming (#2,432,882)

Lobstermen aren't some noble group of people that should be free to roam the seas with impunity. It's an important industry and employs a large amount of hard working mainers, but you seem to be idealizing them in a way that is pretty delusional. They are generally pretty uneducated and backwards thinking as a group, they think everyone else should be bending over to accommodate their industry and any effort to regulate is going to "put them out of business", and it's pretty true that they either are pretty wealthy if they are smart with their money or they are crippled drug addicts who do a lot of harm to their community.

I generally think the state should invest in moving away from resource based industries because whether it's global warming or over fishing it's a vulnerable industry and it would be a disaster if it collapsed with no replacement. See the grand banks fisheries in newfoundland or the paper industry in maine.

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swellmasterswell t1_je2u6oy wrote

Replying to Alexhite (#2,432,141)

>They're gonna be mad about that.

So that you think that using your tax money and your government resources to reduce the legal size of lobsters by a fraction of an inch is something they should focus on? Maine already has the most sustainable lobster harvesting laws in the world.

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SeawolfGaming t1_je2uzyr wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,433,381)

Ah yes 725 million, you're forgetting that there are middlemen taking large cuts of money and that the lobstermen aren't getting that full 750 million. There are also taxes involved. The numbers truly don't add up. If you want me to do the math, I will but the amount they make after tax isn't enough to afford 100k new trucks every fucking year let alone even every 5 or 10 years.

I know a lot of Lobstermen, fuck I live in the highest catching port in our damn state. I barely know any that spend money on drugs. Now go do some real fucking research instead of spreading the constant misinformation that you keep hearing.

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SeawolfGaming t1_je2wqkb wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,433,646)

I'm done replying to you. You're just going to keep going like a broken record spewing the same redundant misinformation.

So let me set this straight, I can tell by how you're talking that you've never once stepped foot on a lobster vessel, nor ever actually sat down to talk to a lobsterman in your life. You just talk out your ass about what you read about but don't actually know anything about lobstermen or lobstering in general. Many of them are broke, and not due to life choices. Paying for heating in the winter, not fishing from September till about May and having to live on what they made during the summer, along with many other factors into this.

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Pg9200 t1_je33m23 wrote

Replying to arms_room_rat (#2,433,127)

The "crippled drug addicts" are often lobstermen who had a debilitating injuries and lost their livelihood because of it. The drugs are an attempt to cope with the lifelong pain. Healthcare unfortunately doesn't come with the job and is neglected.

The few fishermen in expensive trucks that I've met come from wealthy families who don't need to really work. It's more a hobby for them to keep busy.

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Hefty_Musician2402 t1_je391sj wrote

Replying to SeawolfGaming (#2,433,872)

Some lobstermen have money and some don’t. I’m no expert as I only worked on a lobster boat as a sternman junior year of highschool, but you gotta be making at least decent money to drop 500k on a boat (I know not all are that much, but a lot are)

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5teerPike t1_je3krnx wrote

Seems to make sense.

What will really threaten the livelihood, regulations that keep lobster populations up or over fishing them to the point you'll have nothing left to catch?

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120sandy t1_je4flvq wrote

Global warming is pushing them all north anyways. There’s no need to regulate it cause it’ll be done in a decade

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AdmiralWackbar t1_je4rt5g wrote

Replying to Pg9200 (#2,435,246)

I do find it odd that you have a population people that have been negatively impacted by the opioid crisis, but there seems to be little to no sympathy for them. Yet, you see plenty of sympathy towards other groups of people.

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Doc_coletti t1_je4u7jl wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,432,226)

Yeah I could do a time lapse of the security camera in tha parking lot of my coastal Maine business, and it would be lots of brand new trucks. A lot of guys around here do in fact buy a. New one every year. They brag about it. One guys vanity license plate actually even states it.

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sspif t1_jee80p6 wrote

Replying to cardiffgiantthe1st (#2,433,335)

Lol. Most of us are just inland Mainers and don’t know any lobstermen personally. Therefore we judge them from stereotypes and what we read in the news. No doubt this is unfair.

What are the stereotypes? Lobstermen are rich bastards. Lobstering is a closed, “in the family” type industry that doesn’t share the wealth with average Mainers. Lobstermen are belligerent drunks and drug addicts. Lobstermen are grifters who make their living selling revolting prison food to ignorant tourists who think it’s a delicacy. Probably all of this is unfair.

What do we hear on the news? “Lobstermen whine about wind power, say it will destroy industry.” “Lobstermen whine about not being allowed to kill whales, say it will destroy industry.” “Lobstermen rally for LePage, say Mills will destroy industry.” You guys come across as a bunch of whiny, hysterical, selfish motherfuckers in the newspapers. Probably this is not entirely your fault.

If you don’t want to be generalized in this way, express the diversity of your opinions. Organize groups to lobby in favor of offshore wind or whale protections, or to open up the industry and make it less insular and more accessible to people who didn’t grow up in lobstering families. The fact that you are generalized so much is partially your own fault for not showing us your other sides.

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