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Yourbubblestink t1_jddwoii wrote

Boy, this doesn’t really fit with the mythology that we hear all the time does it? The myth centers around the notion that teachers are somehow underpaid, overworked, and forced to spend their own money.

The reality is that teaching is a part-time job with every summer and weekend off, according to data you will only have 11 kids in your class on average so there’s not that much grading to do, and there’s a tax deduction that allows teachers to get extra money back for anything they put in Out of their own pockets beyond what the school has budgeted for.

Enough of the whining, this is a profession to embrace for its benefits.

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metatron207 t1_jde9t1i wrote

>there’s a tax deduction that allows teachers to get extra money back for anything they put in Out of their own pockets beyond what the school has budgeted for

Your whole comment is trash but I had to highlight this part, it made me giggle. Deductions don't change your tax liability directly (that's credits), they change your taxable income. You need a big change to have any impact. The educator expense deduction tops out at $300, and unless a teacher has a bunch of other deductions, they're probably not itemizing anyway -- which makes this deduction 100% worthless for those educators.

The idea that a $300 deduction, which only exists because your fellow citizens refuse to fund education well enough that you don't have to spend your own money on supplies, is somehow this game-changing perk in favor of teachers is hilarious.

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Yourbubblestink t1_jdeero0 wrote

Education is funded. Teachers buy extra stuff because they have the money available to them.

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keanenottheband t1_jdejal9 wrote

I hope you're a troll. Absolutely shocking idiocy. Come into a public school for a week and sub. You need a reality check

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metatron207 t1_jdem3yg wrote

Okay, you're just trolling, got it. That makes the above slightly less funny, because it may not be an earnest belief, but it's still pretty good regardless.

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ZingZongZaddy t1_jddyded wrote

Like every other time maps like these are put together with flimsy statistics, this doesn't paint the whole picture. It's using averages, which usually aren't the best metric since extreme outliers skew the results drastically. Other people here have pointed out special ed classrooms as one of these outliers, for example. Many of Maine's schools have wonderful special needs resources which is a great thing. Many others don't.

You are woefully out of touch with reality with your comment.

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Yourbubblestink t1_jddzyb2 wrote

Numbers don’t lie. I was taught to do math

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ZingZongZaddy t1_jde1m6p wrote

Apparently not very well. Numbers don't lie but people using misleading statistics to support their arguments do.

Using median data would be more significantly meaningful here than averages. I don't doubt that the information on this map is accurate, though I haven't verified. Even if it is, it's basically meaningless.

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Yourbubblestink t1_jdef1e1 wrote

I mean the quality of the math education I received is directly related to the quality of my teacher. So theres that lol.

An average ratio of 1:11, using the same formula for comparison with all 50 states, is real and useful data. I’m sorry that it doesn’t fit with your world view.

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ZingZongZaddy t1_jdefnlp wrote

It's not useful. It's intentionally misleading. Anyone using averages when sharing statistics is either inept or nefarious. Averages can be useful in specific cases but this isn't one of them.

Sorry you've apparently never taken a statistics class. The first thing they teach you is you can make the numbers say whatever you want them to say just by how the information is presented.

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Yourbubblestink t1_jdegbo5 wrote

Compared to all of the other states, using the same formulae, Maine teachers have it easier. Why is that a bad thing to point out?

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ZingZongZaddy t1_jdegwve wrote

Because that's not what the data says. It's flawed from the start by virtue of using averages for its comparison. It lacks nuance and doesn't account for the differences between Southern Maine and Aroostook county. This is the equivalent of a puff piece news story of kittens jumping on trampolines. It doesn't mean anything. It just is. That's why it's useless.

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keanenottheband t1_jdeivbh wrote

Go fuck yourself. Come in and sub and see how easy it is. Fucking idiot

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ZingZongZaddy t1_jdej8ib wrote

Yeah they have it so easy they choose to work service jobs in the summer for funsies!

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keanenottheband t1_jdejk3n wrote

Dude there's a bunch of teachers at my school who have two jobs during the school year and will work all x-mas break. t's depressing.

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sokkerfreek7 t1_jde0a9g wrote

I would ask how much teaching you've done/classroom time you've put in?

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DidDunMegasploded t1_jde8srg wrote

...But they aren't working in the field of education. That's the catch.

This is an uneducated post made by someone who probably whittles their time away working in retail or fast food and doesn't know a single lick about the education field.

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