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Wooden-Importance t1_j27nmw1 wrote

So, I can buy weed in 100 stores, but flavored vape juice needs to be banned. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I'm not hating on weed, I think that it should be legal.

I also think that a grown adult ought to be able to buy vape juice with flavors in it.

I vape because I've quit smoking cigarettes, but if this passes and flavors are ILLEGAL, I guess it's back to cigarettes for me.

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Treslittlebird t1_j27z2eu wrote

Its such low hanging legislative fruit. How about going after flavored seltzers and the like? Or are we supposed to ignore other addictive substances that kids may find appealing? With all that is ailing Maine, bills like this are almost an insult to those suffering real issues.

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cepheus42 t1_j286h11 wrote

If you can't take your tobacco products tobacco flavored as God intended, you don't need them.

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LaChanz t1_j28iyrf wrote

They're going to be so surprised and wonder why cigarette smoking went up among teens and adults.

I know vaping isn't a safe product. But it is way safer than tobacco. Vaping is also a way to actually end cigarette smoking totally if it were done right.

If anybody is a smoker and wants to quit, I highly recommend using a vaping pen. The first time I picked one up was the last time I smoked. 12 years tobacco free and 10 years vape free.

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PvtPug t1_j28rbjn wrote

This is all lobbying and posturing by large tobacco companies so they are the only one in the nicotine game, smoke or vape. Fucking disgusting, I expected it from Mass, not Maine.

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andreq92 t1_j28wzp6 wrote

Except what happens more is people start doing both or progressing. Vaping is a gateway to something worse. Here's a quote from a doctor at John's Hopkins, "Dr. Blaha says there’s evidence that young people who vape are more likely to go on to use illicit drugs and tobacco products such as cigarettes"

If you actually want to quit smoking, you'll do it cold turkey when ready. Until then, nothing will stop you but yourself

*Your downvotes only feed me. I live for the uneducated downvotes of reddit knowitalls with no actual life experience

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Dude_Following_4432 t1_j28xz7y wrote

All the 14 year olds I know don’t care about whipped cream flavored vodka, weed gummy bears or chocolate; they want menthol cigarettes.

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lama_drama99 t1_j2970zy wrote

This isn't even just for vape juice. Menthol cigarettes won't be legal. Flavored tobacco leaves won't be legal, anything that has any type of flavor what so ever that is a tobacco product. Bangor already banned it. I don't smoke or vape anymore, but I think it's ridiculous. Like mist of you pointed out, people will just switch to regular cigarettes or ordering from 3rd party websites. People will always find a way to do it, legal or not.

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Wald0_17 t1_j297rc4 wrote

As a pipe smoker, I can about guarantee this is going to have a negative impact on a hobby I lawfully enjoy. If it's anything like the last one they proposed, and I'll bet it's verbatim, it's going to read "flavored tobacco products", rather than just vape products, which is what all of the bill's proponents claim they are targeting. They're going to keep pushing this until it gets signed, no matter how many times they have to put it forward, which is probably easier than making an effort to fix any of the real issues the state is facing such as lack of mental health care, illicit drug use, homelessness, and the root causes of those issues.

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LaChanz t1_j29b0cs wrote

" If you actually want to quit smoking, you'll do it cold turkey when ready. Until then, nothing will stop you but yourself "

Thats not true at all. I just stated that vaping is what got me to quit. And I have friends that did the same.

Have you ever smoked?

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andreq92 t1_j29c1w4 wrote

So you're not using a nicotine based vape then, just to confirm? It's entirely just flavourful?

Been smoking for 15 years friend, have tried to quit but realized, I don't want to yet. I enjoy it. Watched my parents and many friends try patches, try gum, try fucking hypnosis, but none of them worked. Until they decided they were done. Then, and only then, did they stop. Perhaps one day I'll reach that point too, but as of right now I just enjoy smoking too much. The act of it is soothing. Do you know how many people I've watched switch to vaping, to only end up doing both vape and cigarettes within a year? An appalling amount.

If you vape, unless it's pure flavour, you have no moral highground to stand on as you seem to feel you do. If you're vaping flavour carts, why not just buy gum? Much cheaper

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LaChanz t1_j29d639 wrote

It worked for me. I smoked for 40 years and tried all those things you mentioned. I vaped, yes nicotine, and I quit smoking. About a year later I quit vaping.

It works.

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andreq92 t1_j29dz6x wrote

I'm glad it worked for you. I have watched multiple people start vaping, only to end up doing both, so I guess it's up to the individual to make the decision!

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