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NovaForceElite t1_iwagd4k wrote

Reply to comment by aleksyandr in Space65 R3 - already dead from ESD! :( by aleksyandr

Yup that sounds like an ESD shock. Sorry to hear that. I'd at least try reaching out to the vendor if I was you.

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aleksyandr OP t1_iwagsk7 wrote

Yeah, think I will, to see if they have any leftover PCBs I could purchase to replace. This is like getting a mark on your new shoes when you were a kid on the first day you wore them.

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MechNoob251 t1_iwccmro wrote

at least it's not a scuff on the case though, essentially you just got the shoes dirty and you can just clean them but if it was a scuff you frayed the laces

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aleksyandr OP t1_iwcetxq wrote

Yeah that’s true. Long as I don’t shock it again. So many others saying this is still a problem with this new version of the board makes me worry that even if I replace the PCB it will happen again.

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Pinkisacoloryes t1_iwdmjzs wrote

Back in the day, KBD75 from kbdfans had an issue with ESD. Luckily mine would just shut off and would work if I plugged it back in. What I did eventually was take all the mouting screws off and isolate the PCB from the case with electrical tape. When its closed and sandwiched in, it doesn't really need the mounting screws at all.

Now they coat their PCBs in some sort of blackness to prevent this.

so what I'm saying is, maybe if you get a new pcb from them, maybe try isolating the pcb from all metal contact. Hopefully they fix their design. They obviously knew it was a thing if they included the ESD protection as stock.

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aleksyandr OP t1_iweoj97 wrote

Thanks for the tip. I will try that if I get another PCB.

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sunfaller t1_iwalnnl wrote

how is ESD normally triggered? I always just touch my keyboard without thinking about this risk.

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mynameisWei t1_iwaosox wrote

Usually by like rubbing your hand against fabric or something along the lines of that

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Minh_Katze t1_iwbhr8i wrote

Doesn't it have to be a direct contact with the PCB for that to happen? I always rub my hand on my sweater or a piece of cleaning cloth laying on my table and touch the keyboard after but nothing abnormal ever happened.

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NotSoFull-Info69 t1_iwf033e wrote

Direct contact? Yes for plastic cases and such

For metal cases? Easily sparks can jump from case to PCB or even for metal plates sparks can jump right to the PCB

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ZulkarnaenRafif t1_iwguyfc wrote

Nope, in this case, aluminum (it's metal) case boards have a risk for ESD.

In my case, I'll feel buzzy when I'm touching my Vega when I'm not grounded. Makes me think that the board was "susceptible" to ESD. Even though it never broken once on me.

More metal, more risk to conduct static discharge. Even then, I don't think it's accurate to just say "swap to polycarbonate or plastic case" to simply alleviate the issue.

Then again, I am no electrical engineer. Probably helps a little that I have little to no carpet flooring at my current residence plus the wood flooring probably helped.

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Nyohn t1_iwcselj wrote

I've always been curious about this. I get static shocks from doorhandles and my cardoors all the time, but have never ever gotten a shock from any of my keyboards. Maybe I've been lucky

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xdaysee t1_iwen2sc wrote

You can get esd mats but the bracket is annoying. Never used then after my 2nd year of work switching to pure software.

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RaptorJesusLOL t1_iwbsw6m wrote

Probably because it shouldn’t be a risk on a reasonably well built consumer electronic.

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sunfaller t1_iwcl8rb wrote

So this space65 is an expensive keyboard with cheap pcb or something?

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RaptorJesusLOL t1_iwcmyfl wrote

Not just cheap, but missing basic ESD protection components. It’s a PCB built by someone who knows nothing about electronics, sold as a high-end electronic.

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Centurion832 t1_iwc5831 wrote

Some part of the PCB/electronics is touching the case and then the static discharge from wearing socks on carpet or whatever discharges when you touch the case.

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Pinkisacoloryes t1_iwdmxso wrote

I've had ESD trigged by my dog rubbing against my leg. Happens more often in a dry environment. Some people say to use humidifiers to stop it.

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NovaForceElite t1_iwi34cf wrote

Wearing socks on carpet is usually what builds up the biggest charge for me, but you can get static electricity build up from pretty much every daily activity. Then it's just touching something or arcing with something that is conductive.

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