Submitted by Active-Device-8058 t3_zzgrmp in MechanicalKeyboards

This isn't really exclusive to MK, and I can already type pretty well, but I'm always trying to improve. That got me thinking: Why are suggested finger maps like this:

https://imgur.com/a/t9aFj52

Wouldn't it make more sense for the left hand to continue the direction of the fingers parallel to the arm and natural shape of the hand, more like this?

https://imgur.com/a/P4HkLv8

I find it weird expect that the ring finger of the left hand bends the opposite direction from the ring on the right.

Thoughts?

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elmurfudd t1_j2bi7x0 wrote

habits have formed from the messed up layout that is qwerty . which is a very bad layout and only became the standard due to how typewriters work . but heads up if ur trying to improve typing there always alt layouts than many use to gain wpms . like dvorak coleman workman and many others

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Word_Salad_9445 t1_j2bjxbd wrote

That's why there are ortholinear keyboards, in which the keys are arranged in a uniform grid, with each finger's "assigned" keys in a straight column.

https://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/what-is-an-ortholinear-keyboard/

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Omnias-42 t1_j2bkf9e wrote

Quite ironic for Das to write that article when they don’t make Ortholinear keyboards, or support QMK which is a shame since their build quality is nice

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Word_Salad_9445 t1_j2bm42o wrote

I noticed that. It's as if GMK were to write a blog post about PBT keycaps.

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Active-Device-8058 OP t1_j2bk4hp wrote

I've considered one in the past but I'm tied to a laptop 70% of my time. I don't want to adapt back and forth caonstantly, sadly.

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QWERKey-UK t1_j2cl493 wrote

There's no one way to type. Whichever you chose though, it quickly becomes to feel natural. I learned the "correct" way, and it feels completely normal and natural to me now, and my fingers just go where they are supposed to go without even thinking about it. If you want to learn the way you describe, then go for it. You can always fine tune things as you go along.

While it seems to make more sense to type the way you suggest in your diagram, there will be situations where it is worse. Words starting with, or containing WA for example would then be more difficult compared to the correct way. With QWERTY, whenever you think you've found a way to cheat the system, you usually pay for it somewhere else. It's tempting to learn Dvorak or another layout, but for me, the ability to type well on everyone else's keyboard outweighed the more efficient layout.

Learn how you feel comfortable though. At the end of the day, if you end up being able to type accurately without looking at the board, then that's all that matters.

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Wishbone51 t1_j2ce84u wrote

That's why I'm switching to ortho

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NoOne-NBA- t1_j2cixzt wrote

This issue is a rabbit hole unto itself, that you can dive headfirst into, as deep as you'd like.

It is also why I designed the layout for my work keyboard entirely from scratch.
I wanted my keyboard to work how I think keyboards should work.
I absolutely had to have a numpad, and a split spacebar, so I started with that, then added on from there.

The resulting layout makes much more sense to me than a standard staggered keyboard.
It allows me to get the entire functionality of my 1800s, including a proper numpad, into a 60% case, with HHKB blockers.

More importantly, it also allows me to switch between alphas/arrows/nav cluster/numpad, on the fly, without moving my right hand anywhere.
That alone has made traditional keyboards extremely annoying to me now.
Unfortunately, I still have to use them in various situations.

https://preview.redd.it/48x408ajo79a1.jpeg?width=1208&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d98c284233db5ab640e3b3f9bf676eab995874fd

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yurikhan t1_j2cqj0a wrote

Row stagger does not make sense because it was not designed to make sense. It is a remnant of the typewriter technical reasons where there had to be levers going north from each key, so the rows were staggered so that the levers would not intersect in space.

I jumped to column-staggered boards the moment they became available, have proper keyboards both at home and the office, and regard the laptop keyboard only as a failsafe device.

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ZulkarnaenRafif t1_j2bkzwh wrote

Not really sure you would need to improve further than 60 WPM because writing decent sentences for an article at 60 WPM is a skill that I would kill.

On the other hand, I think the greatest improvement if you are already typing well is to type perfectly all the time. Not really sure if finger placements really matter that much since I'm just hover typing almost all the time for ergonomic reasons.

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