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EnvieOnCam t1_iu7dd8e wrote

No offense but what did he pioneer exactly? Everything he was doing was already done by Little Richard....

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optimalslacker t1_iu7ks7i wrote

He pioneered doing it while being white. An outside observer might call this something other than pioneering.

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EnvieOnCam t1_iu7l8lo wrote

Picking up something established is adopting it. I would say he and Elvis adopted and then popularized it for mainstream white audiences.

It's appropriate to credit them among the first ever "rockstars" for this reason. But I would never describe this as pioneering, all of the groundwork for the genre was already done.

That would be like saying Beastie Boys and Eminem were rap pioneers. Or Blondie because Debbie Harry had the first chart topping single with rap music in it. First to catch the attention of white audiences? Yes. Pioneers of the genre? Not even close. We can say they were incredibly talented people who were historically significant without implying they helped create it, which they did not.

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optimalslacker t1_iu7mkp2 wrote

This is a much more reasoned and detailed response than my snarky comment deserved, and I agree with everything you've said here.

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xRicharizard t1_iu9qha2 wrote

He was a far better pianist than Little Richard. It's not even close.

That said - whole lotta shakin going on is often credited as a progenitor of punk, so there you go.

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