For me they are one of the greats, and it would have been great had they gotten the recognition they deserve.

It's hard to know if things might have worked out differently for them had they been able to overcome some of the difficulties they had to deal with: things like Andy's inability to continue touring, their shitty record deal, and assorted tensions between the group members maybe exacerbated by those things.

Also they've opted not to make the excellent Apple Venus Vol. 1 and Wasp Star available on any streaming service, so that also limits their exposure to only their Virgin albums.

But I love them; they're definitely in my top 5 favorite bands.