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Marv95 t1_j7juqca wrote

"If this board approves this project, then the historic commission should just dissolve itself because clearly we don't matter."

Because you don't matter, nor should you matter. Go away. You're holding downtown and the city back along with the dregs. Time to move forward. Hopefully they don't decrease the size of this thing like they did with Theater Square.

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Nathanial_Jones t1_j7k0biv wrote

There is value imo for historic preservation and having a community group to advocate for it, but it becomes an absolute joke when they utilize that position to obstinentinly object to good projects on grounds entirely unrelated to that issue.

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TrafficSNAFU t1_j7m698n wrote

Bingo. Historic preservation isn't a bad thing but when they start to view their own communities as personal fiefdoms, then they have lost the plot entirely.

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Ironboundian t1_j7kmqzs wrote

One Theater Square was decreased in size due to economics, not the historic comission.

"Conceived in 2005 to have 28 stories, the project was later revised to reach 44 stories, and then re-drawn again for 22 stories."

https://www.nj.com/essex/2018/10/newark_rising_22-story_tower_opens_in_brick_city.html

and

"Lawrence P. Goldman, former NJPAC CEO who leads the arts center’s redevelopment corporation, said the continuing economic slump has both delayed and forced a downsizing of One Theater Square."

https://www.nj.com/essex/2012/09/high-rise_near_njpac_in_newark.html

I'm not saying the Landmarks Comission is perfect....but it's unfair to say they had anything to do with the final size of the NJPAC tower

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Kalebxtentacion t1_j7kz1z8 wrote

I wonder why the tower was downsized, I originally thought the city just didn’t want tall buildings. The funny thing is if the tower was 44 stories that would had been the jump start for a new wave of taller development, but now we got halo and hopefully arc for that now.

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Ironboundian t1_j7l1vm0 wrote

The Articles are clear that the reason it was downsided was due to economics. That likely means that the cost of construction at the time and given the rents at the time did not justify all those additional units all that additional steel and glass and so forth.

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Kalebxtentacion t1_j7kyrja wrote

With the final site planned approved I don’t think the tower will be downsized. Plus the height limit is 1,000 feet plus I believe

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