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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j76vfsz wrote

Reply to comment by pedantic_comments in Family found dead in Pennsylvania made a 'joint decision' to kill themselves, police say by JustMyOpinionz

Well, since they believe most of my friends should be dead for being themselves, neither do I.

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Brilliant-Jacket-550 t1_j77ef76 wrote

Your response truly saddens me. I’ve been out and dealing with anti-LGBT hate for 30 years, but I still wouldn’t wish this upon anyone and I’m able to have empathy and compassion for their plight. These people- hateful as they may seem-were, if anything, victims of the lies spread by right-wing propaganda and the orange buffoon. Unfortunately there are a lot more people who have been poisoned by this rhetoric, so I fear that things are really going backwards for us at this point. Time to be prepared.

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underscore5000 t1_j77ku4d wrote

In all honesty...it probably strengthened the species as a whole.

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QuickNature t1_j771lcm wrote

You must know them very well. Or are making assumptions based on some comments here and will defend them with "well because of this, they must be like that".

This is r/Pennsylvania though, so I'll probably be downvoted, but this is a tragic situation. And the comments here show why these people will never reach out for help and ultimately never change their beliefs.

It also seems that people here have forgotten that they had family and friends who will be effected by this.

Edit: Would just like to point out I accurately called out the downvotes lol. You people are so very predictable.

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five_eight t1_j77hfws wrote

"these people will never reach out for help and ultimately never change their beliefs". Not sure what you'd like to see here.

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QuickNature t1_j77jjzo wrote

I would like to not see people pushed into becoming radicalized as a start. There were a series of failures and coincidences that lead to this family dying. I highly doubt they got to the point they were over night.

Also, because of their political beliefs/religious choices people are shitting all over them without actually knowing them. People here got a snippet into their life from a news article, and a neighbors commentary and suddenly know everything about them.

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underscore5000 t1_j77l8qc wrote

If these people were Trump fanatics after EVERYTHING he has done prior to even running politically...they were already radicalized. If you want to start pointing fingers at HOW they became radicalized...look up the people actively voting to defund education and health care in this country. That's where you can start the blame then. Me personally? I choose to blame the adults who chose to not think like rational adults, but defunding education can assist in making that a pipe dream.

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QuickNature t1_j77mji5 wrote

Yeah, and here is my problem with pretty much everything being said about this family. It all starts with If because no one actually knows them.

I am not debating politics right now, I am saying it's tragic not only because a family died, but for their surviving family members and friends. No one here actually knows them, and the speculation about them is just one big circle jerk of people agreeing with each other.

Also, I never mentioned when they may have been radicalized, just that it may have occured, and if this sub is at all representative of PA, I could see why they became reclusive. The hate and vitriol towards absolutely anyone who isn't extreme left and also apparently atheist now is absolutely disgusting.

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terr1bad t1_j7avqdb wrote

I grew up 15 minutes from here. Red Lion, PA (another nearby York suburb) went down the Trump hole to the extreme. This entire story and their beliefs are completely unsurprising if you’ve spent any amount of time here.

I’m just a random person on the internet so you don’t have to believe me, but it’s hard not to run into people like this in SoYoCo (or anywhere in YoCo)

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Potativated t1_j7izh93 wrote

This is Reddit. Any response less belligerent than gleeful smugness that there are 3 less “Trumptards” and “religious fanatics” is considered insufficiently supportive to the “communities” that Orange man “harms.” There are a lot of genuinely sick people, especially here on the internet, especially in heavily moderated upvote consensus-manufacturing apps, that openly wish the half of the country who disagrees with them would keel over and die.

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77c8my wrote

making up Boogeymen?

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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j77ejfy wrote

Hey everyone! Someone from The “cOvId iZ a HoX” and “ThE eLeCkShUn WuZ StOLd!!!” crowd has something to tell me about making up boogeymen!

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77fcxa wrote

Literally never said that. I hope you are able to regain your humanity someday, but you don't even seem to understand how far gone you are. I suggest avoiding the internet and seeing a psychiatrist.

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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j77gcxx wrote

I have humanity. I just think people who hate the ones I love don’t deserve it.

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77i39c wrote

justify your hatred however you want

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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j77jamh wrote

Oh, like the Ultra-Christian, Ultra-MAGA cultists don’t hate LGBT folks, anyone who’s not Christian, and aren’t corrupted by religious propaganda. If they spread their hate, it’s cool, but I’m suddenly the hateful one if I call them out on it. I’m justifiably criticizing their harmful beliefs.

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77k18b wrote

You are claiming this now dead family wants you and your friends dead based on absolutely nothing. You're making up boogeyman because deep down you know your hatred is worrisome. I don't see any right wing people in here spreading hatred. I see you and people who think identically to you all espousing hatred while feeling superior for it.

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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j77kua2 wrote

Maybe if the vast majority of them weren’t like that, I wouldn’t have to make that assumption. Maybe they should just stop spreading their hatred and drop the superiority complex. 🤷‍♂️

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77lk5l wrote

lmao now its "the vast majority." I knew you were far gone but it's worse than I thought. I can no longer discuss with you as you're clearly deep in delusion.

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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j77lopn wrote

But the religious fanatics who killed themselves weren’t far gone?

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77m78z wrote

Yes, they were too. Congratulations, you are on the same tier as religious fanatics who killed themselves. Please follow my advice and avoid the internet and start seeing a psychiatrist before you follow in their footsteps.

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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j77mhr3 wrote

Ah yes, because an argument with a stranger on the internet is going to drive me to that.

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77n6ky wrote

No, it's the ideology of victimhood yet somehow also superiority and hatred that will be your down fall. You enjoy feeling this anger and hatred. That is unhealthy.

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SamShephardsMustache t1_j77jkfp wrote

There's no hate like Christian love.

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_j77k5b1 wrote

it's very common to point out someone else's flaws to justify your own

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AsteroidDisc476 t1_j77mbst wrote

Like a certain president who called everyone else corrupt and incompetent while making corrupt and incompetent decisions every day during his failed presidency.

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