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drxdrg08 t1_j9gsvmb wrote

Reply to comment by theavengedCguy in Pennsylvania Cyber Charter Owners and Operators Get Rich While Students Receive Poor Education by Open_Veins_8

> Not everyone performs well on tests

Bullshit logic that is failing kids.

> or having high enough grades in your regular education

And creates a path for schools to teach nothing and still grant diplomas. Tests is how you test how well a charter school is working.

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theavengedCguy t1_j9gxb5d wrote

Nope, not bullshit logic at all. Test/performance anxiety is a very real thing and is very well documented. People shouldn't be punished for their inability to perform under pressure, especially not kids.

Also, this Bill did NOT create pathways for schools to teach nothing and still grant diplomas. You're thinking of No Child Left Behind which ROYALLY fucked up the education system in the US. This created the "teach to the test" doctrine as a means of ensuring funding for the school which leaves kids with abilities to solve the problems on the tests they're taught, but no critical thinking skills to apply them to anything of value.

Furthermore, if you want to throw shit about political bullshit regarding the Department of Education and how it operates, Republicans are trying to literally abolish the Department of Education entirely. And it isn't the first time they've proposed this idea either. There have been multiple instances of these asshats trying to cripple the education system in the US, even if just for show. Trump, Rubio, Massie, MTG, and more have all shown support for this and DeVos did her best to hamstring it to make it easier to privatize. Oh and Reagan tried to get rid of it, or at least wanted to get rid of it, back in like the early 80s.

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drxdrg08 t1_j9he4k8 wrote

> Nope, not bullshit logic at all. Test/performance anxiety is a very real thing and is very well documented. People shouldn't be punished for their inability to perform under pressure, especially not kids.

We've been doing it wrong for hundreds of years. Tests have been a thing for a very long time.

It's dishonest to even say that it's about "anxiety". It's a recent movement linked to "equity".

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WearySeaTurtle t1_j9h6w67 wrote

Bruh, you can cheat your way through highschool 🤡🤣

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Zenith2017 t1_j9lgoq8 wrote

Education research for the last 40+ years would disagree heavily with you. Standardized testing primarily reflects the ability to repeat rote information you've memorized, and is especially useless on question types like multiple choice or mix and match columns. We also know there are plenty of students who have inhibitions to standardized testing including executive function, attention, and learning disorders - and that most of those kids are not being put into an IEP or special needs program that can fit their needs.

I know it makes sense on paper (heh) that if you can't put it on a test you don't know it. But that's not really an accurate reflection of what a student knows or how they think, there's better ways for us to go about this with evidence-based learning science

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