Submitted by nuzkumak t3_118wzhs in Pennsylvania
Does anyone know the latest on permanent DST in PA? Are we changing the time one last time on March 12? I thought it was approved at the federal level but waiting on states to act. Right?
Submitted by nuzkumak t3_118wzhs in Pennsylvania
Does anyone know the latest on permanent DST in PA? Are we changing the time one last time on March 12? I thought it was approved at the federal level but waiting on states to act. Right?
Even then it was a surprise pass, nobody knew it was being voted on. It's not like the senate agreed it should be passed and the house disagreed. It was a weird freak thing.
It was really weird. Like all of a sudden, hey, we’re gonna do permanent daylight saving time in a year. Did they check with municipalities? Sleep experts? Businesses? Schools? Having it nearly always dark when kids are at bus stops and walking to school? Not smart. Having people commute in the dark? More accidents. I’d rather see permanent standard time myself…
I don't even care which one. Just pick ffs. The change is worse than anything.
It is, but I also care, and I don't want DLST.
I'm talking about how it passed, not the contents of the bill.
However there are arguments for both sides, even using your arguments above.
Playing devils advocate, the most extreme times have our most northern cities having sunrise at 7:30am vs 8:30am and sunset at 4:30am vs 5:30am.
Most people work 7-3 or 9-5 (and if they don't it's dark either way). Anyone working a 7-3 leaves too early and gets out too early for a change to matter. It's going to be dark regardless. However people working 9-5 are leaving while it's still a little light out with DLST, but driving home in the dark. Overall there's less dark commuting with DLST.
As for school children, they should be going to school an hour or two later regardless. Assuming a half hour commute, only 17% to 57% (likely much closer to 17%, but I don't have the full data) of schools would be beifited from standard time anyway.
Then there's the economic impacts. People are more likely to shop when the sun's out, so the later the sun is out the better for business.
Either way we really need to just pick one.
Even on standard time high school and middle school kids wait for the bus in the dark.
Yes, for a few months. But all kiddos—including kindergarteners—would be headed to school in dark if we went to daylight saving time.
The idea behind it goes far beyond kids going to school in the dark. There are many studies found that during the months of standard time, depression is much higher than during DST. Car accidents are also typically higher during standard time due to workers traveling in the dark to and from work.
I work 10 hour shifts so I go to work in the dark and come home in the dark, and I wouldn't say I get depressed but more so unmotivated to do anything. I am the type of person that would rather spend my free time outside playing with the kids or working in the garage and that extra hour of light in the evening makes a big difference.
However this is an argument of personal opinion with pros and cons from both sides. But there are adverse issues with changing time and it would be nice to not have to deal with that anymore.
Permanent standard time is all fun and games until the sun rises at 4:30am in August
True!
We would have better results on the state level. I don't see any major change coming from congress in the next half century.
"Died on the vine"
OH ✋🏻
I emailed Brian Fitzpatrick about the Sunlight Protection Act. Needless to say, he did not respond.
Fitz is like, "Pfft. It's not the Government's job to give you more sunlight!"
I wish we’d just stay with standard time, but either way, not monkeying with the clocks and screwing up sleep would be good.
I moved to Pennsylvania from Arizona. It sucked readjusting to the changes because Arizona doesn't change. My poor Arizona native wife had never had tondeal with it.
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Not just sleep. Meal times, too, Stop messing with my body clock!
The "Sunshine Protection Act" never got picked up by the house. So it didn't happen.
Several states are working on it, but I don't believe PA is, and I sadly don't see that changing yet.
Senate has passed a bill. That's as far as it has gotten.
Haven't seen anything regarding a switch to permanent time. Seems to flare up every time we switch, and then it dies until the next switch.
Also, *Saving
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They made daylight savings time permanent for awhile in the 1970’s (during the energy crisis) and most people hated it.
God I hope not. Having lived places that had it, then eliminated it, then kept switching time zones to try to make it work all year…just change the clocks, but do it Friday night instead of Saturday.
Not passed as a federal law. Most people want the opposite of this anyway. Standard time should be the permanent time.
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You mean Daylight Shifting Time?
No
God I hope not. Standard time feels right. Daylight is just awful. Sunlight til nearly 9pm some nights just wrecks me.
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No. The US Senate passed a bill last year, but it got no further and died on the vine. There’s no big push to revive the effort.