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eviljelloman t1_jaie9qt wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,138,987)

> institution with a long racist history finally does something slightly less racist than they have for the entire recorded history of their existence

> news: reports on that historic moment

Reddit Dipshit: IdEnTiTy PoLiTicS

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Drewcifer81 t1_jaijxoh wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,139,227)

Why are you making this an issue about race? We had an African-American speaker of the PA house in the 80s.

Perhaps it's more pertinent that we finally have a woman in the position?

Either way, this is not "identity politics" as that would be that she was elevated solely because of her identity... not because, say, she was a well-liked minority speaker for 3 years prior?

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GraffitiTavern t1_jaimj60 wrote

Replying to eviljelloman (#2,139,056)

Pennsylvania has never has a female senator, governor, or speaker(until now), I disagree with some politics where representation alone is the only goal(she will be a much better speaker than Cutler and will deliver for Pennsylvanians which is the most important thing) but having a more representative state government is an unequivocal good. Why wasn't it called "identity politics" when Black people and women were excluded from the commonwealth for the past 250 years?

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajdt9y wrote

Why does skin color ever matter? Stop making everything about race.

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Unfamiliar_Word t1_jaji4ua wrote

Replying to Sensitive_Job_7164 (#2,140,370)

Why shouldn't it matter? It might not be the most momentous of occasions, but it's not insignificant given that there have been 142 Speakers prior to Johanna McClinton, but no women and only on other Black Pennsylvanian (K. Leroy Irvis).

If nothing also, given how prominent race has been throughout American history, especially in its politics, it seems naïve to think to feign its irrelevance. It's not making, "everything," about race to note the significance of somebody from a people who have been abused and oppressed throughout American history attaining a position of significant authority.

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WikiSummarizerBot t1_jaji6qa wrote

Replying to Unfamiliar_Word (#2,140,528)

K. Leroy Irvis

>Kirkland Leroy Irvis (December 27, 1919 – March 16, 2006) was a teacher, activist and politician based in Pennsylvania; he was the first African American to serve as a speaker of the house in any state legislature in the United States since Reconstruction. (John Roy Lynch (1847–1939) of Mississippi had been the first African American to hold that position. ) Irvis, a Democrat, represented Pittsburgh in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives from 1958–1988.

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Finrodsrod t1_jajlcp7 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,140,441)

>I said she was picked because she’s the best qualified, and that’s all that should matter.

You literally said the opposite in your OP.

>but can we stop with the identity politics?

Do you not understand what you even wrote?

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajn7f5 wrote

Replying to Sensitive_Job_7164 (#2,140,370)

It's kind of important in this context. Minorities are empowered by seeing people who look like them in positions of power. Look at a picture of the US presidents. Old white guy, old white guy, old white guy, younger black guy, old white (well, orange) guy, old white guy. Sorry your ego is so fragile.

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajp3y0 wrote

Replying to Sensitive_Job_7164 (#2,140,755)

Why is it racist to celebrate the first black women speaker of the house in Pa? You do realize that the Civil Rights act was passed less than 60 years ago and white supremacists groups still exist? I'd say its worth celebrating.

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Finrodsrod t1_jajr7qv wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,140,831)

Identity politics is particular groups of people adhering to a set political party.

For example Evangelical Christians adopting Republican policy as part of their identity.

Your OP essentially stated that Democrats picked her because black people are stereotyped as having Democrat identity politics.

You literally have no clue what you're even saying.

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajtk5r wrote

Replying to Sensitive_Job_7164 (#2,140,885)

You answer my question first. How is it racist to celebrate her being the first black woman as speaker of the house? Do you think she doesn't want to be celebrated for that? Do you think that any black pioneers don't want to be recognized in that way?

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajvdyy wrote

Replying to Mijbr090490 (#2,140,962)

I want to know why her skin color matters for the position, for what she was voted to do? why should it even be mentioned, it means nothing to the job or role. It only matters to people that pay attention to those details, the people that make sure thats mentioned, the people that rage over someone asking why it matters.Her sex shouldnt matter either, will she do her job better or worse because she is female? why mention it at all?

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WingedChimera t1_jajxrqi wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,139,178)

If it were true equality the amount of people of color in politics would be representative of the amount of people of color in the country. You act like a bone got thrown so now racism is over.

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DeliciousBeanWater t1_jak7bry wrote

Shes apparently a wonderfull person (my mom wotks for the legislature)

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jodwilso t1_jals2fb wrote

Replying to Sensitive_Job_7164 (#2,140,370)

The uniparty wants us working stiffs on its Demacrat wing and Republican wing to be divided over things like race, so the ruling class who they represent can keep stealing all the money.

They’ll fan the flames of anything that keeps the city and rural woking stiffs divided, and too distracted to look at them.

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