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PopeMaIone t1_irjg0il wrote

Reply to comment by Super_C_Complex in A Pennsylvania prison gets a Scandinavian-style makeover – and shows how the US penal system could become more humane by JBupp

What are you talking about state prison isn't where rapists, murderers and child abusers are? Thats exactly where they are. Your argument would at least make a little sense if you were talking about just the county jails even though plenty of violent criminals are there awaiting trial as well.

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piperonyl t1_irjxicd wrote

I think you'd be shocked to learn how many people are upstate in PA for super petty shit.

PA likes to hand out that 1-5 year sentence for a 2nd DUI (or 3rd depending on ARD eligibility for the 1st one). People take that deal when their lawyers tell them that you'll see the parole board in 12 months and since its your first time upstate and a misdemeanor, you'll be out in 12 months. Wrong. Lots of people up there doing 3-4 years on a DUI.

Good friend of mine is on his 4th year for a car accident on a DUI suspended license. Four years in prison for a car accident? Four years is a long time up top.

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LostInSpace9 t1_irjybj8 wrote

And I’m betting that will prevent him from getting a decent job and living a normal life after those years are up, too…

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piperonyl t1_irk08lx wrote

When someone is 40 years old, he needs to have a drivers license. Like i get punishing people for drinking and driving because thats dangerous and irresponsible. But taking away someones drivers license is like taking away someones way to feed their family.

News flash for any PA state representatives paying attention here: drunks are going to drive whether they have a license or not.

Taking away a drivers license does more harm than good.

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devilspeaksintongues t1_irk432q wrote

Introduce the Scandinavian style breathalizers that are directly linked to your ignition... If you're driving drunk you shouldn't be fucking driving ever, end of. You're a death threat to everyone else on the road and do not deserve the privilege to drive. Driving is not a right, it's a privilege.. if you break that law then suffer the consequences cause you're a liability to everyone else on the road.

Yes there should be rehabilitation involved in some way or another for people with duis, suspended licenses, etc.

I dont believe incarceration is deserved unless you end up killing someone while DUI.

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