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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_irvm9d4 wrote

Reply to comment by mcs0301 in The Vulnerability of John Fetterman - Inside this year’s highest-stakes Senate race. by -TheFarce-

I'm a moderate who leans Democrat and I think Fetterman is a terrible candidate, and if he was running against a normal human being instead of the walking carpetbagger shitbox that is Dr.Oz, he'd probably be losing but a lot.

I'm voting for him and have donated to him, but I'm hoping he gets primaried by a decent candidate next cycle.

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Er3bus13 t1_irvsgvs wrote

I'm not a moderate. Centrists democrats have given so much to the right they all look like mid 80s Republicans. When the country hasn't raised the minimum wage in 13 years then by God yes we need progressives to lead because Republicans are now nazis and centrists are mid 80s fuck you got mine Republicans.

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IJellyWackerI t1_irvvxsn wrote

Why do you think he’s terrible?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_irvy1u1 wrote

"Being Progressive" isn't a stance. I've yet to hear him talk about what he stands for outside of legal weed.

He lived off a trust fund for decades, so he can't relate to you and I at all.

His work attendance as Lt. Governor was atrocious.

He ran a kid down with a shotgun and held him at gunpoint because he thought he heard gunshots.

He "showed up at crime scenes" by his own admittance. To what? Bother the police and EMTs?

He wants to get rid of life sentences.

He's getting none of the endorsements that Shapiro is getting, why is that?

His health problems don't make him a bad candidate, but they sure are concerning.

His five point plan starts with "make more shit in America." Seriously.

He's just not a good candidate and would be getting obliterated by any Republican with a pulse and likely will the next cycle unless he gets primaried.

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Illustrious_Air_1438 t1_irzi2zx wrote

There's a reason he and Dr Oz are running campaigns without any substance. It's because most voters don't actually care about policy. You might be an exception, but he's trying to appeal to the average voter.

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tryin2staysane t1_is1c2m8 wrote

>"Being Progressive" isn't a stance. I've yet to hear him talk about what he stands for outside of legal weed.

So you're just not listening to him?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is1kn0d wrote

What's he saying, then?

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tryin2staysane t1_is458p0 wrote

Universal pre-k and Childcare

Increase investments in career and technical programs

Community College tuition free

Improve the quality of care at the VA

Right to repair

Women's rights

Universal Healthcare

Ending conversion therapy

Strengthening LGBTQIA+ rights

Expanding workers rights

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is5h6at wrote

Cool. I like those things. How's he going to do them? Because in all his ads, he mentions none of that stuff. Just tattoos and "I'm tougher than Oz."

I hate Oz so I'd vote for a pile of shit over him, but Fetterman isn't my ideal candidate by far.

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tryin2staysane t1_is632c5 wrote

>Because in all his ads, he mentions none of that stuff. Just tattoos and "I'm tougher than Oz."

He's trying to win an election. Policies don't win elections. Hillary had policies coming out of her ass and Trump had insults. Warren had a plan for everything, Biden had a "I'll beat Trump".

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tryin2staysane t1_is60chl wrote

By introducing or supporting bills in the Senate. Do you know what a Senator is?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is60khv wrote

Like Bernie Sanders and all his bills over the years? 😂

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tryin2staysane t1_is78cog wrote

So why bother voting for Senate? Clearly you don't think they do anything.

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is792h4 wrote

I think decent senators do. I don't think he will be one. I hope I'm wrong.

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tryin2staysane t1_is799ta wrote

What are you basing that on, other than propaganda?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is79rwm wrote

My brain.

Again, I'm voting for him and have donated to his campaign. I'm very unimpressed by his time as Lt Governor and expect the same as a senator.

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tryin2staysane t1_is7dz5w wrote

>I'm very unimpressed by his time as Lt Governor

Why's that?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is7ijmk wrote

He never did anything, completely inept for a person with higher goals. And judging by recent reports it's because he never actually worked.

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tryin2staysane t1_is7olkd wrote

How do you mean he never did anything? How much would someone need to show that he did in order for you to admit that isn't accurate?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is7oxde wrote

https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/john-fetterman-kept-light-schedule-as-pa-lieutenant-governor/

So is that inaccurate? What was he doing the rest of the time? He's not working for PennDOT.

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tryin2staysane t1_is7pc9p wrote

That didn't answer my question even a little bit.

How much would someone need to show that he did in order for you to admit that is inaccurate?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is7pnqj wrote

Is it inaccurate?

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tryin2staysane t1_is7qagl wrote

How much evidence would need to be shown in order for you to find it inaccurate?

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is7tvq0 wrote

So do you not have evidence it's inaccurate?

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tryin2staysane t1_is7w7sn wrote

I'm asking how much evidence I need to provide. There's no point providing evidence if you're going to say it's not enough.

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is7xpz0 wrote

So you can't, is what I'm hearing.

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tryin2staysane t1_is7yyaa wrote

What a surprise, you're choosing what to hear and ignoring evidence to the contrary. There's no amount of evidence you'll accept to change your mind is what I'm hearing.

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is8096n wrote

>and ignoring evidence to the contrary.

#YOU HAVE GIVEN ME NONE.

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tryin2staysane t1_is80h4n wrote

Because I'm hearing from you that evidence won't matter. I ask how much you need and you refuse to answer. Obviously that means you will refuse to hear anything against your narrative.

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is82e02 wrote

I've asked you multiple times, is it inaccurate. You respond with "how much evidence do you need" instead of actual evidence.

Let's start over. Give me literally any evidence he actually did his job. Any.

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tryin2staysane t1_is8bhom wrote

Any? One constitutionally required parts of his job is being on the Board of Pardons. He has a 100% attendance rate there. There ya go, evidence he did his job. Guess you'll admit you were wrong now.

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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_is8gfnc wrote

Great, that's awesome. How often do they meet? Based on what I see on their website it's 4 days once a quarter.

What about the stuff addressed in the article? How he only worked 5 hour days 3 days a week? That doesn't counter that point.

You're just going to say "See, I told you it wasn't enough" but the truth is what you said doesn't counter that article in any way. He attended 16 meetings a year for 4 years. That's not impressive, that's bare minimum.

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tryin2staysane t1_is8vwj7 wrote

So again I'll ask, what does need to be shown for you to admit your assertion is inaccurate? You asked for one thing, I gave the lowest possible bit of evidence. Tell me what it would take. Or be honest with both of us and admit you don't care if there is evidence to show its inaccurate. You don't like Fetterman because of his policies, and you'll vote for him because he's not Oz. You don't want to be shown that your assumption is wrong because you don't want to have to find an honest reason to dislike him.

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RecallRethuglicans t1_is4rgri wrote

He’s a progressive, but he wear hoodies, has tattoos and wear shorts. This is what blue collar people are like.

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klauskervin t1_is0lzhr wrote

Oz is a Turkish national with deep connections to political parties back in Turkey. He also finances and supports his family at over 9 properties back in Turkey. He got his money from scamming Americans out of funds with bogus diet and penis pills. Yet this guy is a good representation of Pennsylvania? WTF are you on?

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