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BasileusLeoIII t1_iumekqe wrote

The overwhelming majority of middle and upper class Americans receive healthcare through their employer. Such people are not spending $20,000 a year every year on medical expenses; that assertation is absurd.

I get that america = bad on reddit, but we're talking numbers here. The millions of people per year who uproot their lives to start fresh in America aren't doing so out of ignorance.

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audreypea t1_iumgyyy wrote

Most people are still paying for healthcare through their employer. I pay $130 per paycheck, which is $3,380 a year just to be insured. Then my out of pocket max for the year is $7k. I meet it every year because I’m unlucky enough to be an American with medical conditions I didn’t ask for. So I’m paying over $10k a year, even with my fancy employer insurance.

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BasileusLeoIII t1_iumhwoy wrote

Ok, so you're on average $13k ahead compared to a similarly situated Frenchman. I'd personally fight pretty hard for a $13k a year raise, especially if it came with vastly superior healthcare treatment outcomes and wait times

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BasileusLeoIII t1_iumkq59 wrote

Yeah that's the point bozo, you can't.

The median person's wages in the US are $23k higher than the median Frenchman's. Subtracting a generous 10k for the healthcare estimates of the above user, the same worker earns $13k more in the US every year.

We don't have the ability to just ask for raises that high; this is why the US is the most popular immigration destination in the world. Because its people are quite significantly wealthier, due to their higher wages and lower cost of goods.

Naïve of you to not read or understand any of the above conversation, interject with an irrelevant point and personal insult, and think that you've made a compelling point.

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