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NewYork_607 t1_iwsv1xg wrote

Reply to comment by AbsentEmpire in Democrats win control of Pennsylvania state House · Spotlight PA by dotcom-jillionaire

Texas and Florida keeps sending us immigrants. Those immigrants most likely will vote blue… fuck purple… I want this state solid blue. I lived in a republican state for years… pure nightmare!

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AbsentEmpire t1_iwv2vdz wrote

The immigrants they are sending are not citizens, they can't vote.

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NewYork_607 t1_iwv7evv wrote

My parents were immigrants for literally a short period of time. They voted for Obama. They got their citizenship so fast.

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AbsentEmpire t1_iwv7zxe wrote

The majority of people they're sending up from the south are here under asylum requests, they're not getting citizenship anytime soon.

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NewYork_607 t1_iwvhvwh wrote

My parents were asylum seekers too. We got our papers fast. The government won't tell you that, so you won't freak-out. ;)

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwt48qh wrote

The immigrants are what making PA worse. Turning this state into a dump and higher crime rates. Families who actually want a future are moving out of those areas to safer conservative areas. Of course they will vote blue, because democrats give them free handouts in exchange for votes and power. Look at cities like Wilkes Barre, Allentown, Reading, Hazleton. Those cities used to be beautiful until lately…

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Zenith2017 t1_iwtajlt wrote

Immigrants are less likely than natural born citizens to commit crimes, and it's not close

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Greeny427 t1_iwtlx0z wrote

Weird you say people are moving to “safer conservative areas” when statistically red states have higher crime rates… keep living in your bubble though.

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NewYork_607 t1_iwumva4 wrote

Red states have higher crime, terrible education, health issues and poverty. Seriously, just Google the election map of the USA and Google obesity / crime map and you’ll see the red states are riddled with crime.

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwunnnt wrote

I’m still confused why people are bringing up red states🤣 literally has nothing to do with blue cities in PA, you guys just keep dodging my comments

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwubvdo wrote

But conservative cities, aren’t

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steelceasar t1_iwuhbyi wrote

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2022/02/23/crime-in-america-study-reveals-the-10-most-dangerous-cities-its-not-where-you-think/?sh=3f8fa2a17710

8 of the top ten highest crime cities are in republican run states. The crime narrative is largely fear mongering peddled to the rural and suburban populations who don't frequently travel to urban areas.

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwui4rj wrote

I literally just said cities, not states. Nobody is even talking about other states. This is a PA sub. Local government has more influence on cities than state does. Take a look at whose leading the most dangerous cities in the world now.

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steelceasar t1_iwujo0k wrote

You did, and your opinion is objectively wrong. You can make whatever rabidly xenophobic points you want when you cherry pick the details.

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwuk78l wrote

> You did

When? I was talking about cities and the state of PA only this entire time…you are the only one who brought up other states when it was irrelevant.

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwuk21c wrote

🤣of course you resort to calling me xenophobic. That’s all liberals result to. Idgaf, nothing i said was xenophobic, racist, homephobic, or whatever the 50 million other comebacks you guys have when somebody has a different opinion than you. Go into a big city in PA and you’ll see for yourself.

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steelceasar t1_iwul3n9 wrote

You literally wrote this in a comment in this chain,

"The immigrants are what making PA worse. Turning this state into a dump and higher crime rates." That is xenophobic you clown.

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwumq0o wrote

Yes, so what does that have to do with other states tho? You still aren’t making sense

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Zenith2017 t1_iwumdft wrote

A lot of what you said in this thread is just verifiably false. You clearly don't base your opinions on scientifically gathered evidence.

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwumux4 wrote

It’s funny how people attack me that I have no evidence since I’m conservative, but you don’t want to point out that the original comment has no evidence, but that comment was liberal so that’s ok I guess🤣

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Zenith2017 t1_iwun3xm wrote

People "attack you" because you're wrong and you don't care that you're probably wrong.

The commenter above you already provided a citation, if somewhat loosely edit: and someone else's mistake doesn't excuse your own. I thought yours was the party of personal responsibility, so why are you blaming other people for your ignorance? It's 2022 and you have full access to the world's accumulated knowledge, and you don't care enough to use it. Easier to listen to Tucker and Alex, right?

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwungkw wrote

You don’t always need facts tho when you literally see it happening. Smaller cities in PA were beautiful and safer cities until recently. Drug use, crime, and gangs are rapid. The cities are garbage.

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steelceasar t1_iwunof3 wrote

>You don’t always need facts tho

This pretty much sums up you opinion doesn't it?

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwuo4g9 wrote

> Easier to listen to Tucker and Alex, right?

Cringe assumption, it’s 2022 right? Find something new. Talk to me like a grown man, but I guess I shouldn’t assume that either

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steelceasar t1_iwur3wx wrote

I think you responded to the wrong poster I never alleged what right wing pundit drip feeds you ideas. And based on your comments there is no evidence that you are not a child.

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YCantWeJustGetAlong_ t1_iwunvcx wrote

So I need a fact for every single thing? That’s ridiculous lol. You don’t need facts to know that a city/state is worse than it used to be. You literally just have to experience it like I did. Plain and simple.

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susinpgh t1_iwupvxy wrote

You do if you want to lay the blame on any one population.

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Zenith2017 t1_iwupofa wrote

So how do you reconcile the situation where your personal experiences here are in direct opposition with what studies say? (Edit: you ignore it! Classic conservative move)

Do you think there's a possibility that your perception of safety in cities isn't the same as the actual state of safety in cities? Just looking at media these days - and this is a knock on left and right media both - they report and sensationalize violence and crime at a much higher level than in decades past. Do you think that could affect your perceptions while not being aligned with the truth?

I appreciate lived experience but one person's anecdotes can't reasonably represent the full scope of an issue as complex as crime across our nation.

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AbsentEmpire t1_iwv3a7q wrote

Hard disagree, the Hispanic migrants to Philly are some of the hardest working people people in the city, truly going after the dream.

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