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Allemaengel t1_j2i9du2 wrote

I'm not surprised given his one Reddit post.

Strangely, though he was from my part of Monroe County (township next door to mine in the same school district) and that I know people who went to high school and community college with him plus who lived in the Indian Mountain Lake development with him, yet absolutely no one seems to have known him.

Starting to sound like a creepy, fairly-educated loner.

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donnyburgher t1_j2iau6q wrote

I graduated from PV in 2014 (one year below Kohberger) and you’re right, it’s crazy the amount of people that knew of him but never really interacted with. Part of that is bc he went to vo-tech and wasn’t really around the rest of the school population, but also because he was just a loner

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Allemaengel t1_j2ibh94 wrote

OK, that helps making more sense to me now despite the West End being such a small place.

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_j2ic3ot wrote

Is it surprising he was a loner? Isn’t that very consistent?

Maybe loners need more help than we realize. Maybe isolating needs to be seen as much of a red flag as acting up.

I’m curious if his family saw him as troubled and tried to get him help. Was it something they didn’t notice or was it more like watching a train wreck in slo mo?

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FiendishHawk t1_j2ij9ci wrote

Sometimes loners are that way because they give off “danger” vibes that are very real. Like in this case.

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_j2ijquc wrote

In which case, asking peers to simply be more inclusive is not a good solution - doing so could put well-meaning peers at risk as well as pressuring them to not “trust their gut”.

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FiendishHawk t1_j2ilww6 wrote

This is basically what seems to have happened with the Parkland shooter. His behavior was extremely disturbing but the school tried to be inclusive. This just made him worse.

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Gettheinfo2theppl t1_j2ii9no wrote

Maybe we need to focus on mental health as a nation and fund it. Mental wellness for all would solve so many problems around the world.

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PsychologicalPaige99 t1_j2jbgu9 wrote

I don't necessarily disagree, but if he was a self isolating loner what makes you think he would actually help himself and invest in his mental health? We could have all the acceptance and mental health access in the world but you can't force someone to help themselves

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Zenith2017 t1_j2y1tsh wrote

You can't force anyone to help themselves, but it's also true that eliminating barriers to access improves the chance of people helping themselves in the first place. I know I'd engage with mental healthcare more if it was more accessible, and I've already been in therapy and psychiatry for years.

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downonthesecond t1_j2iy6fa wrote

Even in countries with accessible care I've heard people claim there is still a stigma towards mental illness so people and families will avoid help. Those comments usually come up after a mentally ill person attacks others.

Maybe NYC has the right idea forcing people into treatment.

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_j2iiki2 wrote

True but you are missing my point that those who isolate are overlooked more so.

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Past_Celebration7084 t1_j2mieqy wrote

He is accused of unaliving multiple people in one setting .If he is guilty and the evidence checks out in court. Throw the book at him like everyone else. Not buying this loner stuff.

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mmortal03 t1_j2jy3wv wrote

>Is it surprising he was a loner? Isn’t that very consistent?

Criminology experts should jump in here, but I don't think introversion is a good predictor of violent criminals. I don't know if people with "creepy" personalities are more likely to become loners, but I suspect it's more complicated than that:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/quiet-the-power-introverts/201105/the-myth-the-killer-introvert

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_j2jz9md wrote

I hear you. I was thinking there is a significant difference between loner and introvert. It’s a continuum - but I was unclear. I wasn’t intending to label every introvert as sus.

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Ct-5736-Bladez t1_j2j3jcr wrote

I didn’t see in the article where it talked about a Reddit post. Where is that from and what was the post?

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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2j6o5e wrote

https://ibb.co/WH1WMKR

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Ct-5736-Bladez t1_j2jk7u9 wrote

The post itself seem harmless enough as it looks like just a typical college level criminal justice project on the surface but diving into the rabbit hole of people who knew him a who went to reddit to discus what they knew of him; yeah it seems like he has issues. That coupled with what he wrote raises red flags

Thank you for sharing the link op

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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2jkgoq wrote

I agree, it looks like one of those typical research polls that you see from time to time, but now it appears to be much more sinister. And you're quite welcome!

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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2i7rrr wrote

The suspect in the killings of four University of Idaho students last month had been known to some employees at a Pennsylvania brewery to make "creepy" and inappropriate comments, the business owner said.

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ratmoustache t1_j2ia6i1 wrote

no doubt there were some red flags beforehand. just glad he was apprehended

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Yelloeisok t1_j2idesa wrote

I just hope they were right and they took a killer off the streets, but I also hope they didn’t charge the wrong guy and ruin his life if he wasn’t the one who committed the crime.

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ratmoustache t1_j2ier1c wrote

yah there seems to be a lot of doubt surrounding their person of interest. understandably so, a lot of obedient dog brains in law enforcement.

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Gettheinfo2theppl t1_j2iikbl wrote

I would blame the media too. If it wasn't so high profile they could be more diligent.

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ratmoustache t1_j2ijnx6 wrote

yeah MSM has no chill. but honestly i didn’t even hear of this till i went to visit my dad cause they played it on fox “news” every single night despite no new developments.

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lehigh_larry t1_j2iavh5 wrote

I know Jordan Serulneck, and drink at Seven Sirens often. Weird seeing him quoted like this.

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dixiech1ck t1_j2id4b5 wrote

The suspect was shocked to be approached by Jordan about his previous behavior. Now he's shocked to be the suspect even though there was DNA matches at the house the night of the murder.

Seems like this guy has some kind of bi-polar situation going on.

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noobiescooby2000 t1_j2iizxb wrote

I've read somewhere else that he asked one of the girls out was turned down. Seems like the dude couldn't handle rejection

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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2ix4va wrote

I actually think it's a pretty good idea and I wish it was something we had back in the days when I was tending bar but there was no such technology at that time. A good way to communicate to staff who to keep an eye on based on previous behaviors - or tip them someone who's no longer permitted to be in the establishment.

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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2j051m wrote

"In the bar's system, staff had added notes that would pop up when his ID was scanned"

When a person's ID is scanned their "private" information shows up. All these employees are doing is adding things in a notes field like "this person is trouble" or "they're no longer allowed in here" or whatever. I don't see a problem with that and apparently neither does the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

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