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Dredly t1_j66rodc wrote

Reply to comment by motobudtender in Pennsylvania's only saving grace is that New Jersey came in worse by Extreme_Qwerty

Extremely profitable with crazy income and awesome weather?

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motobudtender t1_j66s9cw wrote

Everyone is leaving the state. You must have never actually been to California lol.

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Dredly t1_j66t2sl wrote

39,030,000 pop... down from 39,140,000... in the last year. PA went 13,010,000 down to 12,970,000

So PA lost more percentage in the last year then California... 110k vs 40k, but they have triple the pop.

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motobudtender t1_j66tpva wrote

Percentage doesn’t really matter at all in this case. This is not counting the exodus of massive commercial businesses due to horrible tax law. Or the drug/homelessness issue and people shitting on the streets.

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artificialavocado t1_j67pmna wrote

Whenever I heard someone say businesses will flee because of taxes it drives me nuts. What do you want to let them keep holding state and local government hostage over taxes all the time? Too many times we’ve seen I’m guessing being near where interstate 80 and 81 intersects plays some part but where I live there are plenty of jobs. They are just shitty ones where they work people half to death for a starvation wage. $15-16/hr wasn’t even that great 10 years ago let alone today. Nobody is “owed” cheap labor. Too many times these places come in and demand all these concessions and incentives promising the moon and stars that never materialize with zero accountability. I’ve personally seen it in my area at least 5 or 6 times over the past 10 years or so. Amazon being the worst offender in this.

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motobudtender t1_j68qdp5 wrote

I don't really care if it drives you nuts lol... It's a fact. Look at how many have left California in the last 5 years.

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Dredly t1_j66v6px wrote

Have you been to Philly lately?

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motobudtender t1_j66x98x wrote

Yep. It’s also a dump. Years and years of democrat rule lead most major cities into that descent.

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Dredly t1_j66zpb0 wrote

as opposed to our state in general... are you really sure this is an argument you want to be having when you are trying to defend PA?

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motobudtender t1_j675ygg wrote

I’m not trying to defend PA. What I’m trying to say is that we absolutely don’t need more democrats, which both of the states you’ve mentioned have had in power for many many years.

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Dredly t1_j67965d wrote

Good call, lets go with the Republican leadership that has been in control of PA for 40 years... they are doing amazing...

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motobudtender t1_j67ho5k wrote

Tom wolf, Josh Shapiro, Larry fetterman. Ed rendell. What are you talking about…?

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Dredly t1_j6861xt wrote

Yeah kind of what I thought...

The PA Congress3 that actually makes laws has been republican controlled with like 2 exceptions since 1980.

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artificialavocado t1_j67q7yp wrote

It has nothing to do with democrats man, please. This is a nationwide issue that goes far deeper than blue team or red team. These are our own damn people suffering like that. Within the past week I read 2 or 3 articles coming out of Utah talking on how bad the homelessness problem is there that they keep finding dead bodies frozen in the snow. This is unacceptable for supposedly the greatest country ever. We all should be hanging our heads in shame over this homelessness issue.

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