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sbaz86 t1_je96ory wrote

I’m sorry, but what the fuck does this have to do with what’s above. I see what you’re saying, most gun violence is actually suicide, okay. What we are discussing is that “95% of school shootings (school shootings is the main keyword here) are gang related with illegal firearms.” You didn’t bring anything relevant to that. Thanks for the suicide rate of gun deaths, but not even remotely close to what the discussion is about. Are 95% of school shootings gang related? Are 95% of school shootings with illegal firearms? From my understanding, and again I don’t have anything to back it up, just what I have gathered over the years from news outlets, is most of these are lone-wolf shooters who actually have legally owned guns. I want to see where this statistic is, not the suicide rate. Thanks anyhow.

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HighPlainsDrifting t1_je9n4vr wrote

I did not say 95% of school shootings are gang related. I said 95% of these 306 "mass shootings" are gang related.

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sbaz86 t1_jea8f4i wrote

Yes sir, I’m sorry, you’re correct. Still, I’d like to see the numbers on that. I disagree, I think gang members kill within their own “world”, these mass shootings to my knowledge aren’t gang members. I can’t really recall any of them being gang members actually. Sorry for the mistake earlier.

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HighPlainsDrifting t1_jeaanuw wrote

I dont know how to say it more clearly but you still don't seem to get it. "Mass shootings" are calculated by there being multiple victims. A lot of gang-related shootings are groups of people shooting at other groups of people, HENCE THEY ARE CALCULATED AS MASS SHOOTINGS.

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sbaz86 t1_jeafir1 wrote

Fuck? No, I do clearly understand the definition of mass shootings, and I still stand by what I said. As far as them shooting at groups of people, don’t act like any of them have great aim, they shoot way more shots than they catching bodies. Gangs usually find a person out of territory, or it’s a targeted hit, whatever it is, but I hear less “mass gang death shootouts” than I do other mass shootings. I bet most of these mass shootings are actually school shootings, churches, supermarkets, movie theaters, college campus, military base, etc, wherever, I think they’re more lone wolf style in public places, not gang related. That’s all I’m saying, and until I see numbers, that’s my opinion. I respected yours, I just disagree with it. Now, do you get it?

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sbaz86 t1_jeah8up wrote

Only thing I can find is “2/3 of all mass shootings are linked to domestic violence.” With that being said, I think that eliminates the 95% at the minimum.

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sbaz86 t1_jeahwec wrote

Lastly, 77% of all mass shootings used firearms that were purchased legally. Not gangs, not illegal firearms.

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