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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isviqpe wrote

Reply to comment by trabblepvd in How To Watch Tonight's (7 PM) Debate Between Magaziner and Fung by UnderwaterInRI

Hmm just to give my perspective. I’m in the district. I’m a moderate, have generally voted democrat but I think they’ve done awful this vast term and Biden is doing pretty bad as well. I was ready to vote Republican. I watched the debate and thought that both came off as normal humans. However Seth came off as more prepared, more competent and did not come off as smarmy and out of touch. This debate has me voting for magaziner now. I’m still for Kalus at the moment but looking forward to that debate too. Maybe that will change.

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Rhodysurf t1_isvjrq8 wrote

Magaziner is a smart dude and I think it came off that way from what I watched

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isvkg1m wrote

Agreed. And to be honest I think both of them are likeable and were respectful to the other in the debate.

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poobobo t1_iswfuao wrote

Wait. Why would anyone vote for kalus? Is there something im missing?

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Cinema_King t1_isxac5f wrote

Anti-choice people love her. And probably the traitors who think the January 6th insurrection was ok too.

When faced with a choice Republicans look for the most evil option and go with that

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dman_usa t1_isxlkdg wrote

when faced with a choice Democrats look for the most evil option*

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Cinema_King t1_isxlslz wrote

It’s cute that you “think” this was clever

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degggendorf t1_isxpcp7 wrote

And that Biden was the most evil option lollll.

If we went for most evil, we would have nominated...Bloomberg, I guess?

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isxe79w wrote

Same reason I voted for Baker when I lived in mass, she seems like an intelligent person who can manage the state well, and doesn’t seem like a crazy batshit trumper. However, I am going to wait until I can confirm all that by watching them debate.

Also, she has actually campaigned southwest of providence. She actually showed up to the West Warwick Portuguese parade. Haven’t seen McKee southwest of providence

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poobobo t1_isxjxn4 wrote

The problem with Republicans is that they vote as a monolith. Until trumpism is purged from the party, they should all be considered "crazy bat shit trumpers".

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isxluug wrote

The governor is not participating in the US congress so not sure how that’s relevant

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poobobo t1_isxndt3 wrote

Look at all the awful crap that Ron desantis does. He, being Trump's number one competition in 2024 still legislates as a "crazy bat shit trumper". His latest stunt? Arresting people that his administration provided voting cards too, for voting. It's literally a race to the bottom with these people. Since Trump's presidency, I find it completely insane to vote any Republican into any office. They no longer act as elected officials to carry out the will of the people. They act as your ruling overlords. They will sell you out and make you suffer all for the sake of making Democrats look bad. You'd either have to be woefully uninformed or do some impressive mental gymnastics to vote Republican in this cycle. Our democracy hangs in the balance.

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isxnzir wrote

Again I need to iterate that I’m waiting for a debate to make my final decision. But if Kalus is like Charlie Baker or Larry Hogan, then I’ll vote for her. If she’s like DeSantis, then I will vote for McKee.

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Human-Ad2370 t1_isxajpi wrote

Magaziner since every Republican tows the party line and the party line is the end of democracy.

Re: Kalus - Why? Are you anti-abortion and healthcare? Why do you think someone who isn’t a Rhode Islander or has any experience in public service do well and protect our rights?

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Human-Ad2370 t1_isxdywb wrote

I would serious reconsider voting for any republican if you support Women’s rights and healthcare.

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dgroach27 t1_isxlc3y wrote

Yeah she's said she won't do anything but that's what Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett said too and look how that turned out.

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Human-Ad2370 t1_isxf1n9 wrote

Not by executive order - but things don’t happen overnight. What about my second point?

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Human-Ad2370 t1_isxfy5r wrote

Testing company. That ended in mediation and bungled at the end - you don’t think it’s an issue that she’s a millionaire that lives in Newport that hasn’t even been in RI for more than two years? I think you need to be more cautious - be wary of grifters are out for themselves- and really understand what republicans are doing to this country.

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Human-Ad2370 t1_isxgfnt wrote

Oh darling you can be mad about me trying to talk about Kalus but going into another thread to number one misconstrue what was being said and two support COVID misinformation is too much. Bye ✌️

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trabblepvd t1_isx84c4 wrote

Magaziner had that awful section where he was pushing for nuclear war. With that, I cant believe anyone who was on the fence would would find nuclear war appealing.

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isxdv6l wrote

I actually thought that answer was well thought out and came off strong. NATO should be ready to escalate and respond should Russia use nukes.

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trabblepvd t1_isxhy3p wrote

It lacked perspective and a de-escalation option. Comes off as reckless to me.

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isxi273 wrote

I think your take is reasonable but personally I think allies need to demonstrate that nuclear usage is unacceptable

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DeftApproximation t1_isxy6tc wrote

It’s that whole appeasement / don’t tolerate the intolerant philosophy. Eventually you gotta draw a line in the sand that says; do not cross.

If you appease a bully, are they really incentivized to stop their behavior? They just got what they wanted by being a bully, why would they stop if they can just keep doing it?

It is a very tenuous situation but eventually we gotta draw that line.

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trabblepvd t1_isxzhlz wrote

I also object to the demonization of the energy industry. Seth was relaying the same talking points of energy prices being an issue of corporate greed when we all know that simply isn't the case. Attacking an industry as enemies goes no where towards working with them to find a solution. Its equates to a throwing up of hands and saying its not my fault, don't blame me look at them, I can't do anything about it type of answer.

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isy0t1l wrote

I agree. That is a lazy talking point that the democrats seem to use. Luckily i think it’s all talk lol

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