Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwnpfsb wrote

Reply to comment by RICoder72 in RI Congressman Cicilline leads effort to bar Trump from running again under 14th Amendment by Rogue-Island-Pirate

Do you think Trump's actions should NOT be disqualifying him from holding office again?

22

RICoder72 t1_iwnswrs wrote

I didn't say anything of the sort, in fact I said quite the opposite. Your response reinforces my feelings about RI too, because as much as I love this state I'm surrounded by leftist bots and it makes me a little nuts.

Trump handed the democrats the moral high ground by being Trump. Nearly every word he said and every action he took. The democrats, especially the really inept ones like Cicilline, just can't let it be what it is. They need to grandstand and try to make it into something it isn't only to look like fools. I mean, you can buy into it and let them contribute to the divisive stupidity if you want, but it isnt going to make anything any better.

−10

Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwnyu53 wrote

I just asked you a question. Maybe stop the presumptions?

I’m all for letting Trump run. If your opponent has a cancerous growth, you shouldn’t be volunteering to surgically remove it for them.

10

RICoder72 t1_iwo05y0 wrote

Your question is presumptuous.

I dont want him to run. I think he was instrumental in a bad and moderately dangerous movement. I dont think he is guilty of insurrection (really sedition would be the charge) because he skirted the line very well and frankly if he were he'd be charged already. So, to the point, no he isn't disqualifies under the 14th and this is grandstanding. That doesn't make Trump good or correct or not guilty of bad actions.

−6

Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwo1lg4 wrote

No, my question was genuinely trying to figure out what your views were about Trump’s actions. It could easily be read as the MAGA “he did nothing wrong and he got cheated” viewpoint or it could something more nuanced.

I prefer to try and get a sense why someone says something if it’s unclear before simply arguing it.

Fwiw, I think this is more strategic about just amplifying the case why Trump shouldn’t hold office than a serious and earnest attempt to block his campaign. That and trying to force Republicans to go on record for or against the guy. The ones that back him create a new attack vector over the next year and a half with every crazy and stupid thing Trump does or says, the ones that don’t? Or try to somehow stay out of it? Trump will go after them and you’ve just exploited the giant fault line on the right.

7

RICoder72 t1_iwok1zo wrote

You're being more generous than Cicilline deserves. This is posturing and a waste of time and resources. Really, even based on what you wrote, I think you realize this. It's gaming it all yo score points in a popularity contest which is no better than what Trump always did.

−1

weednpornnpolitics t1_iwnuwhi wrote

This shouldnt be a hot take...cicilline is a donut and makes himself a lightning rod for everything the right cant stand about the neoliberal left. I live in providence and the political climate is unilaterally, unquestionably blue that loves to parrot neolib feelgood talking points while we continue to rank horribly for running small business and cost of living.

5

RICoder72 t1_iwnxdi3 wrote

I will never understand the love this guy gets. He basically gutted Providence only to be outdone by his successor. He has zero political chops and is as corrupt as Cianci without any of the benefits or like-ability.

EDIT: I love that my comment has been down voted into oblivion. Keep it classy RI.

7

buffymiffington t1_iwophve wrote

No, he didn’t. I worked for the city around the time he became mayor. He inherited a giant steaming mess.

4

Intrepid_Priority154 t1_iwnq7ps wrote

I don’t know. No one seems to care a politica party paid foreign actors to write a fake dossier about the president. DOJ knew it was lies but it didn’t stop them from starting an investigation of the president then lie on warrants to keep spying on the campaign. I am. Ore concerned about that than saying “the election was rigged”. Because both parties have done the latter. Hell Kamala warned people before 2016 that you can’t trust electronic voting machines.

−24

drewtee t1_iwpooil wrote

Everything in that dossier was true except the piss tapes

2

Intrepid_Priority154 t1_iwpposb wrote

So Cohen went to Prague? Nothing in it was verified. It’s why the source lied to the FBI. It’s why the FBI mislead congress in 2018. It was all lies meant to kneecap the president. It’s a much bigger scandal than the media is letting it.

−2