Proof-Variation7005 t1_j0cgndp wrote on December 15, 2022 at 5:19 PM

Reply to comment by fiddycixer in Providence to install 60 more license plate cameras by Beezlegrunk

> urge the city to instead invest in robust housing, educational, and economic supports, all of which promote public safety and trust in the community rather than suspicion

We should totally do that. The camera system that costs about $160k isn't going to make a dent in any of those areas though.

fiddycixer t1_j0ci63i wrote on December 15, 2022 at 5:28 PM

It's not about the startup cost for the city. Some of these politicians sneeze $160,000 into a Kleenex every day.

It's about them using violative methods to access millions of dollars (see east Providence) in revenue.

Proof-Variation7005 t1_j0cj6qs wrote on December 15, 2022 at 5:35 PM

You're not talking about the same type of camera. Speed cameras have to be in school zones only, operate limited hours/days and generate revenue.

These are not the same thing.

fiddycixer t1_j0cjj5n wrote on December 15, 2022 at 5:37 PM

You know what. You're right. Not the same. Thanks for pointing that out.

I maintain this type of surveillance is unfavorable to the relationship between the community and the city. And that it's a step in the wrong direction.

Proof-Variation7005 t1_j0cwj7n wrote on December 15, 2022 at 7:00 PM

I think there's a ton of valid reasons to not like the cameras. I just question how much of an impact it will have.

It comes down to what happens first: a scandal that breaches public trust where the police misuse the cameras or a situation where the cameras can easily be pointed to as a part of the solution, i.e. "in the stolen car with kid(s) inside"

Beyond that? I'm not sure it really changes the public/police relationship much. Even with media coverage, most people aren't going to notice this shit since, unlike the speed/red light cameras, they aren't getting a ticket in the mail.