BiffBiffkenson OP t1_j6986is wrote on January 28, 2023 at 5:36 PM

Reply to comment by CoffeeMilkSteaks in Flashing Yellow School Zone Speed Signs Should be Mandatory Alongside Zone Cameras by BiffBiffkenson

You bring up a good point. Maybe the yellow signs even sans saying anything about school zone symbolize school zones. I will have to look at a drivers manual to see if that is the case.

Downloaded the manual and those signs are not in the manual just school crossing signs.

CoffeeMilkSteaks t1_j69b2qr wrote on January 28, 2023 at 5:56 PM

You mean the one from 2015? The crosswalk sign has no words or flashing light attached to it yet I still know what to do. I'm honestly not trying to disagree with you. Putting a flashing light up back up isn't going to take the cameras away.

BiffBiffkenson OP t1_j69c033 wrote on January 28, 2023 at 6:02 PM

I'm not advocating taking the cameras away at all. I'm saying the flat black signs sans any flashing lights are not as safe as the yellow flashing signs that were actually taken away in some places.

Not every driver is from the area and be honest those black and white signs are not for safety they are there so people will not notice that it is a school zone and get a ticket.

In the western part of the State school zone signs of any type are lacking. Those places should also have a flashing sign indicating school is in session and to slow down.

CoffeeMilkSteaks t1_j69k3ow wrote on January 28, 2023 at 6:57 PM

Ok i'm just trying to understand what it is you would prefer? Camera, large signage, and flashing lights? Or just camera and flashing lights and remove the large signs all together?

BiffBiffkenson OP t1_j69lk8s wrote on January 28, 2023 at 7:07 PM

Just add the flashing yellow signs that say school zone and have the speed limit posted on them.

I thought that was clear in my post.

In some cases these were simply removed from school zones in EP. Not sure why except that it makes it less urgent with a flat black and white sign.

Are you of the opinion that its not possible to have those along with the flat black and white signs?

CoffeeMilkSteaks t1_j69tiji wrote on January 28, 2023 at 8:02 PM

Yes it's possible to have flashing lights too but it really would be overkill. Theres already enough large bright yellow signage.

BiffBiffkenson OP t1_j69djnw wrote on January 28, 2023 at 6:12 PM

Yes but you are well within the school zone by the time you see the school crosswalk sign.

A school crosswalk is no different from any crosswalk though. When someone is trying to cross the street at a normal crosswalk it is the law to stop and in some municipalities that applies without a crosswalk. Maybe the fine for not stopping is higher than it is at a normal crosswalk though.