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sethamin t1_j69z290 wrote

Technology has dramatically improved the quality of life for all of humanity and made things much easier. The fact that we tend to use that extra time to work more is a societal choice (or maybe flaw), not a reflection on the technology itself.

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jb1316 t1_j6afzxw wrote

And we certainly aren’t working “harder”. Grandad would laugh at what we call a hard days work. Even with manual labor tech has made it significantly easier.

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[deleted] OP t1_j6ahtjk wrote

>The fact that we tend to use that extra time to work more is a societal choice (or maybe flaw), not a reflection on the technology itself.

Lmao absolutely not. It's not a choice. And if it made thing "easier" is up to interpretation. All it did was help capitalism to get the rich richer and the poor poorer. There was no societal choice to work more. Only capitalist greed that force us to work more for less. And all technologies are just a way to make that go faster and produce more.

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krahk t1_j6afl0s wrote

How is it a societal choice?

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FryCakes t1_j6ag64d wrote

Because if technology makes us more efficient, we shouldn’t need to work as long as we used to to get the same result. Yet the “normal” workday is still 8 hours. That’s a societal thing

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[deleted] OP t1_j6ai2ka wrote

Its not and its not a choice. Its a rich people thing. They are the ones making us work more for less. If you think people making 40k$/ a year are choosing to work more and arent working more just to survive now. Please get the fuck out.

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FryCakes t1_j6akbk9 wrote

I think you misinterpreted what I was saying, I’m in full agreement of you. I don’t believe it’s a choice either, I’m overworked and making hardly enough too. But I do believe it’s a societal thing, as a result of the rich making it that way. I thought the original commenter was referring to “societal choice” meaning society has made that decision FOR us as “that’s the way it’s going to be”. Maybe I misinterpreted that

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[deleted] OP t1_j6alk6x wrote

Societal choice means that we as a society are aware of whats going on and choose to keep it this way. And its simply not the case. Most people arent aware of the injustices and thise of us who do are absolutely not OK with the way it is.

Also I wasnt telling you personally to "get fucking lost" it was meant as a " I dont want to argue with any dumbass who disagrees with this".

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FryCakes t1_j6am0lp wrote

Fair enough. However my reply about the technological aspect of it is still true: they expect us to work the same amount we would if we didn’t have technology, even though technology is supposed to make our lives easier.

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[deleted] OP t1_j6amg2i wrote

Yes absolutely. Their lies are getting so obvious. Like they used to say "work hard now so your kids dont have to" then it was "we have to work hard until we get new technology then you can stop"

And now its straight up " yeah well we have the technology but if you want to survive youll have to work because life is now crazy expensive for everyone" and I just dont think theyll be able to keep that moto as long as the previous ones. People are getting angry.

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FryCakes t1_j6aqpos wrote

If it wasn’t malicious, technology making things easier would have made life cheaper too.

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krahk t1_j6alq0l wrote

I'm on the same page as that. I would say that as much as it is the rich who benefit from it, I imagine it isn't such a deliberate or conscious thing.

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FryCakes t1_j6am2xr wrote

I think it is though. At least on some level

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